Why is Jaina so OP and why is there no Horde equivalent?

It goes, casts dice. But you cannot miss it would wreck the story. You are a god with special effects now cuz we say so.

Malfurion almost kills Saurfang 1v1 at Darkshore. (He challenges him to a Mak’gora, Malfurion refuses and knows that he could one shot Saurfang if he wanted to) And I’m sure that someone like Malfurion can solo Bolvar, but there’s no reason for them to fight each other.

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because plot power.

Saurfang? Vol’jin? Cairne? The situation demands them to get jobbed.

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Jaina was a magically gifted child who was sent to Dalaran to study under Archmade Antonidas.

She was trained by the guy who, IIRC, also trained Khadgar (The guy who teleported an entire city by himself, albeit with the aid of a prepared ritual, but he did it by himself.) before sending him to apprentice to Medivh.

Jaina has been an active combatant using magic in battle since she was a teenager. From fighting bandits, to the Scourge invasion, to the Legion Invasion and the Battle of Mt. Hyjal, through Northrend, all the way to Pandaria.

In Pandaria after breaching the Tomb of the Thunder King she imbued the staff she wields, which at the time was basically on par with the Mage Artifact Staff, being the staff of Antonidas, Archmage of the Kirin Tor, with the power of the Titans themselves by absorbing the Titan power gifted to Lei Shen into the staff.

She’s basically been using and improving combat spells non-stop for 20+ years within the Warcraft universe, and fighting everything from hordes of undead to demons, and eldritch horrors and winning.

In answer to your specific concerns regarding the ship itself.
The profile and gun-deck arrangement of the ship has much in common with the HMS Prince Royal of the 1600’s, a 55 gun 2-deck ship of the line. That displaced 1200 tons, so your weight estimate is probably a little low considering the size of the Kul Tiran guns aboard her.

Beyond that, though, the weight itself is fairly meaningless.

Jaina was Archmage of the Kirin Tor for several years, years during which she would have had access to and knowledge of the spell that allows Dalaran to float. Considering her prior experience and power, levitating a 1200 ton ship vs. a city would be child’s play.

As far as moving and maneuvering it… all she would need to do is generate wind to do so. If the spell counter-acts all the mass of the ship, then it has very little inertia to overcome and so would require little effort to actually move. More like a balloon than a ship.

The cannons are easily explained by her simply taking time during the voyage to set up explosive arcane runes within the guns. Notice they only fire once.

Personally, I’m more impressed that the ship and guns hadn’t rotted away in the decade it’s been on the Ocean floor.

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With those characters, we know their backstories and can see how they grew to the point they’re at now. With Sylvanas, she went from a very good Dark Ranger to being able to face tank a ton of solid saronite because of something that happened a decade ago in a short story that we weren’t told about until Blizzcon.

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I mean you’re not wrong…

At least on the first sentence, because that’s not true.

But it is pointless to say anything, we all know Alliance characters collecting powerups it’s ok, and always perfectly justified and logical. /s

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Because Bolvar isn’t as powerful as Arthas and the how it should have ended for WotLK should have been “Malf, fix this”

Not only that, but Bolvar could have taken both Sylv pre escalation and Saurfang.

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Sylvanas’ has been explained… and even if not fully explained, things are allowed to have mystery for awhile and don;t nee dot be revealed immediately.

Yes but Malfurion gets imprisoned by random demon satyrs and dungeon bosses and half of the story became about saving him now from his dreams. You can’t honestly tell me he got over powered by a pesky 2 shotable 200k hp Nathanos now can you unless he’s into it right?

This is the most disgusting thing I could ever say but… for a Paladin, you’re not too bad.

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Jaina might be powerful Mage but she has one major flaw. She’s soft or naive. Easy to persuade and trick, when it comes to her family or friends.
Like this Spoilers BFA

Because Human Potential™

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But even that explaination is out of the blue and even a retcon. The Jailer and Sylvanas never talked in the short story where she was in the Maw, and as that story gives a pretty thorough explanation about what she feels and is doing in the Maw, that’s a pretty egregious omission and an obvious retcon.

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You seem very concerned about the size of the ship, but it literally weighs nothing in her mind. If you can levitate a pebble, you can levitate a country. It isn’t as if she made an ice spear the size of the sword sticking out of the planet, but even that is feasible with enough time. Once you create something by thinking about it hard enough (mage food and water isn’t made from anything but air), all roads open up.

No Horde equivalent.

Zandalari Troll posting about Alliance.

Jaina was always a powerful character. Nathanos was a random elite character in the plague lands.

Obviously, the writers just write as they please, but if you want to talk about a character that cheesed their way to being OP, Nathanos is your boy.

(And the reason why he’s even powerful and an “important” character in the game is just as laughable. Seriously, google it.)

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Im gonna guess that it’s all just being written as it goes along, and a test audience with draws for oomph would help. Saurfang died like archmonde on a lfr transmog run and clearly was Sent to a obvious suicide mission with a massive army gathered with their faces to assault their own city instead of say. Hiring and going all Dishonored and teleporting into her throne room to assassinate her and install a proxy horde leader? Honor is for the dead when they went… Of all the villain routes they went literal purple Hitler zombie with boobies…

Jaina has been at war and actively fighting the deadliest threats in the universe for 20 years. In addition, Dalaran is a city that has been advancing magical technologies and techniques based off of the High Elven magics, themselves derived from the Highborne magics (Thalyssra’s people), and evolving on them for 10,000 years.

Thalyssra has spent 10,000 years on a couch. Thalyssra may know everything there is to know about magic that the Nightborne 10,000 years ago knew, but she’s basically been spending all that time on a couch in a magical bubble.

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The same reason the Horde has no equivalent for Tyrande and Malfurion also being demigods. This is why the writing in BFA was so bad, in my opinion. The Alliance leadership is stacked beyond words with demigods like Jaina, Malfurion and Tyrande that all three of them could charge Orgrimmar and just wipe all of us out without a problem.

To facilitate a faction conflict in any capacity, the Horde’s leadership must be written as divided but incredibly brilliant with a warmind like Sylvanas at the helm while the Alliance choose to just be idiots among one another.

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Yes, they were as weak (strong?) as needed to be killed as the writers intended.

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