Why is it okay to replace Malygos and not Ysera?

Seriously, why is it that we can have a continuation moving forward with the Blue Flight, but the Green Flight has to stay tethered to the past and have bad storyline to bring back a dead dragon?

Merithra should be taking over and become the next Aspect, just like Kalec did. Shoehorning bad storyline to bring back a dead dragon is another line of bad writing. It needs to stop.

Merithra should be developed further and would negate the need for destroying stories. Change the image on the splash screen, make Merithra newly in charge, leave Ysera where she belongs and stop making death seem completely stupid and irrelevant.

Heck, a new major NPC like Merithra is also a good way to make more diversity storylines, as well.

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Ysera’s sacrifice in Legion is one of the most memorable moments in WoW, now made completely meaningless. It’s a shame.

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Because letting female characters stay dead is a sexism.

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The only thing the writers seem to like better than killing off characters, is bringing them back in some wonky way.

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Hello, I see you posted a thread about horrible story. This is the result of terrible writers trying to write women in roles of importance with, apparently, the only way to do that is by killing men off and/or making them look incompetent! Little do they know that by doing this they lower the overall bar for everyone only making their “strong” female characters look incompetent as well since, apparently, they can’t do anything of renown without men first, haha!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

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I think writers today have an issue where they don’t want women to have any flaws but its the flaws that make characters interesting and great, so their female characters end up being dull and pointless. WoW has always had great female characters but beginning with BfA its like they suddenly don’t know how to write them anymore.

This is not a woman problem, its a mentality of viewing women as weak and for some reason need unflawed heroes to represent them.

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Blizzard and good writing is giving oil and water a run for it’s money

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The greatest example of this is Star Trek The Next Generation. They set Worf up as being a total badass and great warrior, so each week to show the baddie was tough they would have them beat up Worf. The end result is that people viewed Worf as a weak character who talked a lot of trash.

This is why characters need to earn their way rather than tear someone else down so they can short cut their evolution.

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Tell that to Bambie’s mom. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yes, I agree. We need death to seem like a real consequence. Bringing someone back from the dead should be used very rarely.

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huge agree on this point you made, especially with lore characters.

Uther’s death in war3 was a great example of this. Not only did it seem like death was a real consequence as you said, but it also made Arthas’ character feel more sinister in-game.

too much mind control and resurrecting in this game now :100:

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Because they didn’t think of Ardenweld revival back in WotLK. And no, I don’t agree with Ysera coming back alive, it’s just this isn’t a great counter to being disappointed to her coming back. It’s also not like the blue dragonflight has ever been associated with revival vs. green. The best revival Blue ever got was Sindragosa.

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I’m not equating them on some Ardenweald level at all. I’m saying it’s dumb to leave one dragon dead and not the other. How it’s achieved wasn’t part of my argument.

I simply think it’s bad form to want to move forward in storylines, but suddenly we can’t leave an Aspect dead and replaced, when we already have a dead and replaced Aspect.

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I’m guessing it has to do with how popular she is. It doesn’t make sense for it to be about her gender since her successor would be, ya know, a woman.

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Transphobes so freakin insane that they just have to make some jab at trans people in a thread that has nothing to do with them. Just stop.

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Stating in your title “Why is it okay to replace Malygos and not Ysera” is just dumb. Was a different time with different lore expectations. Just comes off as ragebait :dracthyr_shrug:

The Merithra talking points are the exact ones I’ve made and are more constructive then “yeah but why does this flight?”

The difference is that whether we like it or not, Shadowlands setup the lore for this to occur. Revival is part of it. Revival of important defenders of nature is a core aspect of Ardenweld.

Death doesn’t matter in this setting, and pretending it does is silly. Characters get revived all the time. There’s literally portals to the afterlife in Stormwind and Orgrimmar, you have random mortal civilians like little old lady Ol’ Emma just walking around Oribos. So to ask to respect Ysera’s death feels like a flimsy request when nobody’s death in this game is respected. The consequences of death in WoW are as nonexistent as they are in DBZ.

And for what it’s worth Malygos’s death was just as stupid as Ysera’s, and just like hers, never should have happened in the first place.

Thanks for the opinion. It’s just a title. Maybe read what I’m saying instead of nitpicking a title? Just a thought. But you do you.

And it was explicitly stated that due to the fact that the Winter Queen sacrificed part of herself for Ysera, that Ysera is bound there permanently. So much for that, eh?

Anyway, you’re entitled to feel how you feel, but I don’t see how this argument is constructive to the topic at all, when it’s just “I don’t like that you tried to compare two Aspects.”

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What year is it? Did I travel back to 2016?

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I mean, you shouldn’t. It’s silly to do so.

Yes, so much for that as they write their lore and we’ve yet to fully experience the story and requirements to perform this revival.

Again, it’s fine to dislike it, I don’t like it, but things aren’t the same with the Shadowlands after we got involved anyways. Bastion changed up their entire process due to what occurred so who’s to say the same didn’t occur for the Winter Queen? Not to mention the minor amends her and Elune had so who knows if she was just keeping her ‘pet’ for keepsake :dracthyr_shrug:

Revival is Ardenwelds entire thing and Malfurion is probably the single most important aspect of nature outside of Ysera so… :dracthyr_shrug: