We do get a bit more as you can see in the blue post on the CC forum. That does not mean they instantly react though - and they never have.
Oddly enough though we had a recent thread on the Children’s week PvP achievement and how bad it was for both the normal folks who PvP and those who don’t. All around bad. They removed it from the meta finally based on a GD thread! I was going to ask, but did not have to a I guess.
There are things they have done that were pinned on the CC, but in reality the CC just reflected feedback from their guilds, discords, forums, RP communities, etc. Which is what it should be. CC folks conveying their own thoughts - but also those of the folks they feel are community. With 100 or more that means a lot of diff smaller communities having input, in theory.
GD is always monitored by the CM so this is not ignored, even if they don’t post. Sadly a lot of what goes on here is not constructive game feedback.
Yeah Maizou has said similar things. You guys have it rough. The general player base thinks you have authority that you definitely don’t have. Sorry for naming you Maizou!
See that! Agreeing with you as usual. Entitlement is at the core of this post. Like what rational minded person seriously believes WE decide what is and isn’t put into this game?
I also agree with you about lizard wizards. The implementation is awful beyond words.
Well, they can pick some specific council members and discuss their threads via live chats , they already did interviews with streamers that practically just read some questions regarding DF expansion,I’d like to see some players like the Blizzcon Q&As that have some questions around the overall game and not just the next expansion.
Agree, for a sample of 100 players + Devs even with RL things to do, there’s a lot of threads dead and a lot of CC members that practically don’t post or comment anything, It’s good that’s not like GD but there’s some rich topics that could generate good discussions around.
It’s also a colossal mistake to throw them into one fishbowl.
There should be sub-forums for different activities and only the people who participate in those activities should be posting in them.
People who don’t PvP should not be posting in PvP threads.
People who don’t raid should not be posting in raid threads.
People who don’t role-play should not be posting in RP threads.
The community council is pointless because even this obvious fact did not occur to Blizzard.
I don’t share that POV because I just do Heroic and I’ve my complains about Mythic difficulty even when I don’t do that kind of activity, usually my group clears Heroic and that’s all because we don’t reach 20+ players.
There’s also some improvements that could bring those players that don’t do a specific activity IMO.
Also, we already have sub forums but Blizzard decided to do a CC with a small sample, instead of focusing on the feedback PTR forum and the sub forums, they mentioned toxicity as one issue regarding the forums but there’s really good feedback post on the BGs, Classes, Lore, professions forums IMO
Blizzard did not need to. I think most, if not all, of the CC is good about not posting in threads they don’t have any personal knowledge of.
They don’t need an artificial barrier to help them focus on what they have real input on. Those few who post in topics they don’t know much about directly say so.
This seems to be a concern that has not really materialized in real time.
Which is good but at the same time, you’ve 100 members as sample and maybe only 10-15 comment about PvP, that´s why in my opinion some threads are kinda dead because a lot of members don’t have an opinion. That’s the issue with a small sample split into multiple gameplay mechanics
That’s because so few of you post that we can count them on our fingers. But if the CC was ever to actually be made functional (which would require a functioning critical mass of posters on various topics - something the CC lacks in its current form) subject separation would be necessary).
Again, it’s so much like alpha testing. In alpha you get maybe 2 or 3 druids, that’s not enough people to even have a conversation.
(Alpha also suffers because so many alpha testers don’t even play the game, anymore, and just get invited as legacy testers even without active subscriptions.)
Maybe for organizational reasons sure, and some of us have suggested that in the CC admin discord. But so far as I can tell the CC folks don’t need to be locked out of threads to prevent them from posting. They know better and if they do post, they qualify their input to make sure folks know their experience/stance.
People who don’t PvP, for example, are not trying to be the spokespeople for PvP or influence it.
That is more a GD trolling thing than anything else.
I guess Community Council had a nicer ring to it than “Hand Picked Group of People That’ll Throw Us Softballs”, it doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue lol
Mostly true, however, Maizou has been on a posting spree (and good-quality posts too), and so far he’s the only CC member that has openly brought up the topic of Panda Druids
So far pleasantly surprised with Maizou’s activity on the CC board, I wish more CC players would actually be active/visible on the forums like him.
It’s a shame, some of these dudes posted a one-time “intro” post and then quietly disappeared/literally never made any feedback threads (which is the whole point of the thing )… it’s also a waste of a council spot when they disappear/ghost like that
It’s quite certainly a PR stunt, from last year I might add, that has no actual value or purpose other than to be something to point to when they scream “WE’RE LISTENING!” to the couple million people who left because they weren’t listening.
Like all ATVI PR stunts, it backfired horribly. The magnitude of the failure is somewhere in between Bobby Kotick writing a letter about the sex scandal and saying it was actually from Fran Townsend then saying the letter he himself wrote was tonedeaf, and of course the Glorious Diversity Tool.
I predicted it wouldn’t even last this long and they would do something cancel-worthy… but so far only one of them did. I’m still waiting for the self-destruct tweets and the “does not match with our company values” statement when they finally pull the plug.
This. Like when we got asked to give feedback on something that I don’t do - Solo Shuffle - even if we don’t do it, I made sure to clarify that my thoughts were coming from someone who doesn’t PvP and only does casual low level battlegrounds.
Other CC members do the same when they get asked to give feedback for stuff they don’t do. Seeing all sides of a topic is good for the devs - they can see why someone isn’t participating in specific content, etc. What other people don’t like about it, what other people DO like about it, etc.
Asking for them to separate feedback based on player type goes against getting actual feedback. It would create an echo chamber - which is what this thread accuses them of doing in the first place (which is funny cause a lot of us have radically different opinions)
Likewise, with raids, you need to see all 4 types of players, LFR, Normal, Heroic, and Mythic. Cause if you only get Mythic feedback, the other tiers will suffer, and vice versa.
As for how many CC members there are - I imagine most of them are waiting for Dragonflight Alpha. Can’t speak for them, obviously. Just seems like a logical assumption.
)… it’s also a waste of a council spot when they disappear/ghost like that