I am of the opinion that bias is the foundation of many “nerf this” complaints in this game. You’re also trying to tell someone thats been playing this game for 15 years they have no idea what they’re talking about. 
Well, no. I also play a druid. In the later half of BFA, my druid was my main. I mostly played resto, but did boomi as well. That same boomi is as geared as my hunter, but I don’t post on the druid as much these days… though I did prior to SL dropping.
Most of my experience with the ability comes from time played on my druid. I’m well aware of how strong the ability is. I have killed 3-4 people in a single convoke in multiple RBG games. The damage it does is absurd. No ability in game should be able to deal out enough damage to kill a player in less then half a second… ever.
It’s a fun spell for PvE and I wouldn’t want it changed there, but something has to be done for PvP. I’m more then glad to have a reasonable discussion, but this thread has been mostly druids posing ‘whatabout’ comments or trying to under player how strong it is.
It’s not hard to get off a full cast and it requires 0 setup. Even on my hunter I have 3-4 things to do before I can get my damage going.
Double Tap > Resonating Arrow > Trueshot > Explosive Shot > Rapid Fire > Aim Shot > Arcane x2 > Kill Shot. If Aim Shot crits, I might have a target low enough for a kill shot, but not usually. All of that damage is happening over a 6 second window and it’s far from instant. It’s incredibly telegraphed.
I can imagine at this point druids are hard focused in arenas and BGs now. When I did my weekly skirmish quest I was hard focused every single match as the healer because they assumed I was a moonkin waiting to pop convoke. The main issue here is fun and druids not wanting something fun taken from them. No one wants fun removed from a game where the idea is to have fun in it. Players love building a character up to be powerful enough to do insanely epic things especially in pvp. The constant fear is what is Blizzard going to nerf next and how much fun is it going to take away from the game?
Nobody cares what you imagine, there is raw representation data on ladder and the recent Arena World Championship we can rely on - far more objective sources of truth.
People who don’t PvP competitively shouldn’t be trying to speak with authority on the subject of PvP. Nobody cares about your 15 years of WoW experience; it’s only proof you can play something for a decade and a half and still be a novice.
Balance literally has the majority of their damage funneled into a 4 second window, especially in PvE. If convoke gets a serious nerf then Balance will be quite literally useless in PvE too. Outside of that you’re pretty useless. If you can’t LoS/stun/interrupt it you deserve to die. You can’t always interrupt it but you can LoS it, it’s so unbelievably easy to LoS a boomie.
Balance is decent for once and everyone loses their minds. You guys aren’t dying to every single balance druid you play against and you cherry pick the times where you stood out in the open and let a druid convoke you. Some of these clips are a joke, just stand right out in the open and let the druid free cast on you, “brooo this is bs this druid just hit me with a full moon while I stood there in LoS of them.” Then again the wow forums aren’t exactly a bastion of high level players.
Actually, we should nerf convoke down to 8 spells or something. Then buff starsurge damage by a significant amount. That way you guys won’t have to worry about interrupting anything (I know it’s hard) and we’ll just hit you with 3x juicy starsurges. Sounds better, right?
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Is this some weird meme thing you think every druid you respond to is the same druid?
TBH even if they stop it 1s in there is still a chance it can deal over 40k damage. So yea…Thats kinda the main issue here.
Yeah and there’s also the chance i get a wrath and a few regrowths/rejuvs. Also, convoke outside of CA is useless.
You guys act like convoke is guaranteed to hit with full moons or do 50k burst. I’d love to know how many times people here have actually been killed by a full moon. I’m thinking it’s once or twice but that was enough to traumatize everyone.
Absolutely not true , I run on my other Druid Kyrian as feral/Balance and I actually can put out more dps then with convoke u less it’s trash pull where are high health pool enemies around me.
Convoke is broken in PvP because it has one shot potential that other classed don’t have. And that one shoot potential seem has I high chances to proc
Its called an opinion. People are still allowed to have those just so you know. You’re trying to speak for everyone by saying “nobody cares” which you’re not the voice of. I will continue to give my opinion and I will continue to assert my 15 years of experience with the game as a foundation of my opinion. Your biggest blatant proof of ignorance on the matter is thinking that only people who pvp on a competitive level have a say or valid opinion on this. I will speak with authority on anything in this game because I have the experience to do so. I don’t care how you feel about it. It still is just my opinion and you calling me a novice despite my 15+ years experience with this game shows your bias thought process on the matter.
Amazing how many druid’s are top tier atm. I mean just look at these charts of how many druids are listed.
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You should not have the chance to deal 40k damage in 1s when most classes get a mastery buff or an extra dot.
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here is your data
So OP that there are 8 druids in top 100 ranked players currently 8%. Guess these guys have zero experience in pvp .
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It absolutely is true no matter how much you think otherwise. NIGHT FAE BALANCE DRUID has the majority of it’s damage funneled into a 4 second window, there’s no arguing about this. You ever do 17’s with a balance druid and watch them barely sit above the tank when they don’t have CA or convoke?
Why even bring up kyrian? Yeah obviously you’re gonna put out more spread dps… because you don’t have a burst window like convoke. The point is night fae balance druids have all of their damage funneled into a 4 second window, there’s no arguing against that. What level keys are you doing because in the 16’s and 17’s i’ve been in myself and my boomie friend have pitiful dps outside of CA and convoke. What happens in keys under 10’s or even 15’s is irrelevant.
Also, you have some proof that kyrian pulls more than convoke? I seriously doubt you’re doing more than 25k ST with prideful.
They aren’t. Boomkins are very tanky. The two conduits buffing frenzy and bear form are amazing. Given that’s its on a 30s cd, it’s extremely strong.
Fun is good, but fun shouldn’t come at the expense of another player who has to to react in a 1/2 second or be dead.
Kyrian is also very good. No one is losing their minds over it. Quit the hyperbole.
It’s mostly one spell in convoke that’s causing the majority of the issues… Fix that and we can revisit the ability.
Wow, 2 Balance druids in top 100. This is truly an epidemic. Do top level players not understand how broken convoke is? They could get to rank 1 by just pressing 1 button, wonder why they’re not all on balance.
Pretty funny how there’s 4, 5 ferals? Nobody cries about them though. Balance druids are usually a free kill in pvp, just feels like people are salty cause they can actually fight back for once.
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I love these comments. You apologists keep outing yourself with the dumbest things. Balance are tanks right now.
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Kyrian is also very good. No one is losing their minds over it. Quit the hyperbole.
It’s mostly one spell in convoke that’s causing the majority of the issues… Fix that and we can revisit the ability.
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This is a mega thread crying about convoke, people are legitimately losing it over it. Quit whining about hyperbole, it makes you look petty.
Usually… as in all of BfA. But sure keep putting words in people’s mouths because you’re angry. Did the “fight back for once” really not tip you off that I wasn’t talking about currently? Guess reading comprehension isn’t a strong point.
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Hyperbole? Players dying in .25s.-5s is hyperbole? lol.
Try playing the game some… The fact you think boomis are free kills says enough. You realize people use them for tanks in RBGs? Yea, super squish…