So I assume you also think that Kyrian Rogues should be given their OP one shot back as well? It’s not like they haven’t already done this to a covenant before.
Players understood the risk of choosing a Covenant based on power from the get-go. The system is obviously broken when so many people would opt to change Covenants after a nerf; please stop holding the system hostage and allow other Covenants to have their time.
What’s funny too is that the only boomkin in top 50 I was talking about is actually Kyrian and doesn’t use convoke :3
Maybe cause convoke is so easily countered when playing against people with a brain.
Like I said, it’s a lot easier to hide in stealth in a battleground and wait for Convoke; try doing that in an Arena without your team getting pissed. If the Druid is a NF boomkin and isn’t stealthed you can be sure that the other team is going to be gunning for them hard.
Yes? No? They should’ve given a new talent row and made the covenant “power” be the secondary one so that all rogues had the option?
The covenant system is truly broken in that regard. Either the power is too good or not worth the time to put it on your bar.
The whole ripcord thing was about things like this…decoupling and getting rid of borrowed power systems too.
Players understood the risk of choosing a Covenant based on power from the get-go. The system is obviously broken when so many people would opt to change Covenants after a nerf
One of the central pillars of this xpac is unworkable.
Well we know how well Azerite gear turned out. Covenants are still salvageable at this point.
How? Can’t re-balance the primary powers without nerfing them into oblivion, they suffer from the same “currency” issues as AP, and they contribute nothing towards progression…they’re one and done right now, just pulling levers to see if you get the mounts/mogs.
Even gutting them to not forcing you to choose one is going to get around the fundamental problems.
Because it’s a long cooldown that can be interrupted and is tied to a spec that can be easily shut down by facerolling tunneling.
You want convoke nerfed? Sure go ahead, as long as we get dots and fillers that truly matter because right now they all hit like wet noodles and only exist to fill up astral power.
They need to nerf the OP attacks and buff the less popular ones to some degree, and ideally there should be more abilities; every Covenant should have at least one attack and one utility option. They set the system up for failure when they made the abilities situational and then enforced the idea that Covenants are not meant to be changed.
Yep, and now it’s end of January and this nonsense still continues.
Absolute trash design.
The amount of complaints convoke gets from superior specs is insane. At least have some self awareness of your own classes bull.
I am all for a nerf to convoke if its done in a large sweeping change that sees the specs better than balance druid (hint there is a lot) also get slammed. Realistically I would love for it to get nerfed and our consistent pressure get buffed, but I highly doubt that happens.
Yeah because “superior specs” are immune to being CC’d then convoked to death right? Said superior specs don’t have 1 a shot kill button.
Please for the love of god can we also talk about fire mage? They need to be decimated
Dont worry, I certainly dont consider DH’s good.
Fire isn’t close to the stupidfity of boomkins and convoke though. Fire has to cast multiple spells in a rotation using multiple globals, and combust can be purged, along with the mage can be LOSd. Convoke you can do none of these things, on top of it instantly deleting you in .5 secs.
Also, a mage is basically worthless once that combust is done outside of being a ccbot, while boomkin can continue to pump out stupid damage.
I’m not saying combust doesn’t need changed, but in terms of comparing the two, there is far more counterplay with combust.
Havoc isn’t good right now but vengeance is, watch rextroy’s vengeance dh 1 hit video…he uses the night fae ability to literally nuke people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNeaYSO8Sk&ab_channel=Rextroy
Question. If fire is worse than balance, how come in AWC fire mages saw 10x the representation that balance druids did?
It’s certainly not every mage but… the shields, the self heal that reverses damage taken, invisibility, being able to repop the 2 or 3 shields that give you half a health pool of absorption, and ice block… not to mention the sheep’s and dragon breaths… all of that coupled with the fact that they can global… oh and ring of frost… as a FIRE mage.
So when I’m spamming dispel on the fire mage and it takes 7 seconds to get to the combust it’s not really helping, I’m not saying I can’t beat fire mage… we’ve beaten comps that are balance Druid / fire mage… it’s just not consistent… their toolkit is too strong IMO.
and combust can be purged, along with the mage can be LOSd. Convoke you can do none of these things, on top of it instantly deleting you in .5 secs.
Convoke can absolutely be LoSed. I use it all the time to get it to focus one target over another.
The fact that you dont even know the basics of the spell you are screaming for too be nerfed, shows you have zero opinion worth listening to.
Convoke can absolutely be LoSed.
I would assume this gentleman didn’t realize that the spells were already mid-air making it seem as though he was LoS’d and still got hit.
With convoke dishing out 16 spells in a 4s window that is bound to happen.