Did you miss the part that I linked multiple videos showing devs asking asking players what they want. Classic+ is the most popular route and it should be discussed, if you find it pointless just don’t make posts.
Lmao no one I know plays retail. Just because you’re a tourist (and have to go back) doesn’t mean anything.
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And to the point of the thread. Classic+ is the way to go
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Classic+ with an alternative route is more retail WoW because it is made by modern WoW devs. That exact thing you don’t want. There will never be more Classic WoW because the devs are simply gone.
If you are here to daydream about what ifs then carry on I guess.
Tbc and wrath are retail progression realms, not Classic+.
I think a lot of people would play Classic+ if it was free (no buy in, no additional subscription), and very few people would play it if it wasn’t. I think they probably have enough data to know that.
If Classic+ could just magically appear without any development costs, I am sure that they would do it. But that’s not how games get made.
I’m also pretty sure that if you asked 100 WoW players what Classic+ looks like to them (when it starts, what current chars are eligible to participate, what game systems/balance changes will be in place) you would get 100 different answers.
If they tried you’ll just end up with a Cheesecake Factory expansion. Something for everyone, no one is that happy.
Define what is Classic+ is first.
And i’m not saying that to be snarky, sarcastic, or dismissive or anything. I’m simply asking that because we all have different thoughts on what Classic+ is that we can’t agree on one feature Classic+ should have. It’s practically worthless for Blizzard to try to consider that because what our version of Classic+ maybe be- nay, entirely different from what they think Classic+ is. Not that it’s a bother to other people who has the capacity to make such a game. 
It’s like asking people what do they think Half Life 3 is going to look in the future. It’s not going to be the Half life 3 were all thinking of. Which is never going to happen because Valve can’t count to 3.
/Microsoft Sam’s Laugh.
It’s in the thread just read it, or you want me to quote myself?
The part where you said that people have different ideas on what Classic+ is and that Blizzard can’t do it?
This quote? 
Or you mean the video?
No, but somebody already asked what is classic+ in the thread.
Ah, that one.
I suppose that is a consistent request i’ve been seeing throughout, i’m more or less thinking the specifics like what sort of specific additional content, and improvements, but alright.
I don’t have a blueprint for classic+ but my idea is basically this:
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Big class balance pass with mixed in tbc and wrath talents and skills.
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Better quest and leveling expirience with more added quests from tbc prepatch
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Rebalance dungeons and raids to make em more challenging according to the new class balance and player power, maybe add heroic mode.
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Loot changes specifically tier sets to accommodate more than one spec per class can use it.
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New pvp system, not sure what to do here
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Additional content beyond p6, includes cut content from vanilla, maybe scarlet crusade and timbermaw raids, who knows what else, the sky is the limit, but it’s important to keep everything in Azeroth.
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Me Personally…
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Ascension but with a few Retail features like the modern day Tmog/Barbershop,
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with the Worgen/Goblin/Pandaren Races,
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Maybe new races like Naga and Orges,
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World Quests but reworked to work as it did in GW2,
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Bigger emphasis on Professions
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and have the new zone be the unreleased Emerald Dream.
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… And maybe have Steward Copeland as well Peter Neff and Kenneth Burgomaster in the soundtrack composers. Mid Flute and Platform Peril for Life!!
That’s just a start for me, but it’s the basic jist.
A (most likely) innocuous starting point could be focused on the originally-planned content for the Vanilla launch that got cut last minute and never implemented. The Timbermaw Hold & Emerald Dream bough portals come to mind. Azshara also had content withheld iirc.
An indulgence of mine would be a quest centered around the complete destruction of The Dark Portal.
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I’m in for the Rhythmatist.
I’m sorry did you say anything else?
Karazhan was supposed to be a ten man vanilla raid if I remember correctly. Azshara was supposed to be more fleshed out and host a battleground. There’s vids on youtube that cover what plans never made it into vanilla. The amount of originally planned content that didn’t make it is astonishing - to me anyway.
Classic+ has tons of potential. So many things they could do without harming that old school vanilla feel. Blizzard is just too big of an entity to think that small though.
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“New PvP system” just add RBGs imo. They’re fun and don’t defeat the spirit of classic
Their intent seems pretty clear with almost every question centered on Cata alone (with only ONE non-Cata option at the very last page), that they will be doing some form of “Cata+”.
For me, I don’t want Classic+ (much less Cata or anything Cata’ish) since the development of new content in Vanilla WoW already gives me heartburn.
Cataclysm…will never be CLASSIC WoW. No matter what label you put on it…it’s just full-on Retail.
They should just call it “Cataclysm - Remix Vol. 1”.
Personally, I won’t play SOM again because it felt too rushed, temporary and artificial - it’s supposed to be The WORLD of Warcraft - not Season Of Whatever.
I only ask for Classic Era to be around for years with maybe a Fresh Era realm every 2 years, following something like Fyris’ suggestion:
The Talent Tree’s in Cata were significantly changed to be more simplified and also to have a capstone limit.
Cataclysm will literally be DOA. You really think alot of people will play it?? Unless they do drastic changes and add cut content, you’re living in a dream world. Look at pservers. There isnt and hasnt been an active cata server since wow pservers started.