Why is buying gold not bannable?

PROFIT!
uh or is that prophet
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There’s a nearly 40 percent chance you’ll get away with murder in America

The police’s solve rate is even worse for other crimes.

I don’t see why blizzard deserves defending anyway, you even said yourself, a few players copped a ban wave at the end of classic, when else? They just simply do not look for either gold buyers or sellers. There is no consequence because they just don’t put any resources at all into these things. They have the ability to, you see that when they do the ban waves. And then they disappear for another 6 months to a year before doing another ban wave.

You can’t kill the market but you can atleast put some fear into the playerbase not to do it by regular bans. At the moment there is no fear because so many people buy gold and none of them get punished for it.

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If GDKP’s weren’t a thing it wouldn’t really matter.

I’m not sure how the sites that sell gold even generate it.

GDKPs make it so the gold sellers can sell truckloads of gold regularly to the same people. If there was no GDKP they wouldnt be able to sell anywhere near the amount of gold they are able to now.

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I definitely agree more should be done. The question is what.

They could take a look into people’s accounts randomly spiking from maybe a couple hundred/thousand gold to tens of thousands in the matter of a day or two. Maybe not even ban them in the case that it is legit, but at least review it. But as you brought up earlier, I don’t know how many GMs they have, much less for classic.

Another thing they could do, as much as I’d HATE to say it, and I know everyone else here would hate it too: introduce the WoW token to classic. Obviously this is the lazy/cash grab route. Let me be clear since I know I’m probably about to get flamed just for even bringing it up: I do not want WoW tokens in classic. I’m just simply stating that it could help kill the gold buying market on classic.

That’s the two immediate options I see to help solve the problem. We all know the former isn’t realistic for blizz anymore, they’ve gotten too big.

But something should absolutely be done, because unless you’re toting tens of thousands of gold into a raid or have a guild to raid with, you’re screwed.

It’s a side-quest, man… Like, people just want to see the content.

It is bannable but it’s not effective for a few reasons.

I’ll explain the process to you since it’s not immediately obvious to many players who live in a bubble.

  1. Whales buy boosts to level 70.
  2. Whales go to GDKP with thousands of bought gold and buys everything they want. That gold gets distributed to honest players who never buy gold and never leaves the economy.
  3. Whale eventually gets banned.
  4. Whale starts over with another account and does the same thing.

That’s one scenario and it’s fairly common. The other scenario is the whale never gets banned because they funnel the gold through other accounts and methods using the auction house so it’s impossible to tell they’ bought gold.

It’s not even just whales, good chance a large portion of your guild has bought gold or received gold from somebody who has bought it. Some players really struggle to believe a lot of gold buying is taking place, but it’s really all over in TBC. Especially with how expensive some things are.

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This is why I report every person in global chats that mention GDKP for cheating. Just doing my part.

Nailed it.

I never could figure out why they couldn’t just instantly ban someone who is outright blatant about it.

For example, a guy in my BWL raid in classic era spent 20k on a DFT. I mean it isn’t completely out of the question, but I would expect if it was legit, that means that person had spent considerable time just grinding his jewels off…the giveaway to me is that the price was pushed that high to begin with. You’re telling me not only did this one guy have that much gold, but 2, 3, 4+ people in the raid did as well?

I gotta throw the BS flag on that. No chance that many people are spending that much time farming gold to that extreme. Not in the same raid group anyway.

To me if you’re in a GDKP and people just start bidding outrageous numbers on items, you should be able to report them and as I said earlier, at least have them investigated.

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Prove it. Please.

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Imagine anyone defending Blizzard at this point. Its a company full of sexual degenerates that could story tell their way out of a paper bag and have their heads firmly up their rear ends when it comes to player feedback

This company is irredeemable. Its EA with a better PR team

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LOL
But yeah they can show receipts.
Otherwise if they know people in their guild or friend group are taking part in rmt then I challenge them to report it instead of turning a blind eye.

Plently of people post in the forum about getting caught. It happens.

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It has nothing to do with defending blizzard. It has everything to do with recognizing that this problem isn’t just a drag and drop fix.

Yes it is. It is an extremely simple fix, but it requires staffing live bodies to fix it. However, we know that’s not happening so it isn’t even worth bringing up

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The wow token is not a fix in the slightest. It is honestly one of the dumbest arguments there is to “fix” gold buying. You want to stop gold buying by making it unbannable? And you think the sellers will stop selling gold with the wow token? It will just become cheaper from illegitimate sites and the people who want to buy it legitimately will be paying more to blizzard and rewarding them for doing absolutely nothing to fix the issue.

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Wrath of the Lost Ark

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Exactly what I said. Which is what makes it complicated. There’s no easy “auto” fix. The easiest solution is hiring a staff to monitor server economies and as I said, investigate any outliers as far as currency spikes. We both agree that blizzard is highly unlikely to do that.

I disagree. Why do you think gold buying in retail hasn’t been a major issue since many expansions ago? The other reason being gold hardly holds value anymore to begin with.

It’s not the solution I’d want, but to dismiss it as not effective whatsoever in the slightest bit is a bit dense. It wouldn’t fix the overwhelming amount of gold circulating in the economy, but at least it would starve out some of the sellers, and in turn cut down on bots.

It’s disrespectful of blizzard to be so hands off. I can only imagine how f’ed the economy in retail is.

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They assume their algorithmic reporting system will take care of everything. So, might as well use it.