Why is Anduin So Strong?

I don’t think it is villain stories so much as Blizzard likes to write the Horde as the “metal, hardcore anti-heroes” because that is badass, but they don’t know how to do that correctly so the Horde just comes off as villains. And the Alliance is just a set piece for the Horde story.

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You assume them villain batting the Horde is a sign they dislike the Horde.

I disagree. I believe it’s because they love their vision of the Horde.

Yeah they may do bad things from time to time, but they are Honorable! Look at how Saurfang is sad because the Horde is being messed up, don’t you feel sorry for him, how awesome he is when he said the Horde was strong! Yeah go Horde!

Blizzard thinks this was a good look. Because to them, they love it. It’s stupid as all hell, but Blizzard loves this kind of story.

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No I don’t think this is true. The only time Horde was the hero was during Green Jesus Era. They have never once written us as Anti Heroes. That’s what we want yes, but it’s wishful thinking as to their intent.

No this is just the narrative version of “the guy that talks badly about you, kicks you in the playground, and otherwise makes you feel bad actually likes you”

Yeah no that is not at all what people felt walking away from BFA, wasn’t even really what the message of the cinematic and the end of the questline felt like at the end of the day either.

Quite the opposite, that the “Heroism” of the Horde essentially died with Saurfang.

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Then make him prone to fits of rage a la Brother-Captain Tycho of the Blood Angels.

:pancakes:

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Someone mentioned in response to when I first said this that it sounds a lot like domestic abuse.

That was darkly accurate to how Blizzard sees their own franchise.

And again, I cannot stress this enough.

Because this forum looks at all the stupid that Blizzard does and see it as stupid, doesn’t mean Blizzard thinks so as well.

They saw Saurfang dying as this grand honorable moment that exemplified the Horde.

They see the night elves constantly getting kicked in the teeth every other expansion, but them always getting back up as being the badass tree elves to be awed at.

And now Anduin uh, being Anduin can be a thing because they actually care about Anduin.

But everything else? Nooooooothing.

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You know how in star wars they have “The force”… Well in warcraft we have “the Plot”

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Human potential

Human Potential

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Bow down to Human Potential or suffer! :gift_heart:

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Anduin’s faith is strong. In the case that he does doubt himself, he always has somebody that will council him, and bring him back up. I don’t think that what he does is always right at all, but he does try to always do the right thing or do what he thinks is right- so that makes him super powerful in the light.

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Anduin’s heroic characteristics are his connection to the Light and what he can do with it.

Is this what we’re going to see every time Blizzard commits the crime of having a Human hero on the field?

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Yep. They’re the least interesting race in the game. Everything they’re capable of, there’s a race who does it a thousand times better

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Unless you are a Worgen, where apparently Varian can do everything they do but better. Or the Draenei where Anduin can do everything they do with the Light but better…

I will never get over how Wolfheart’s Human Potential crap. It was singlehandedly they worst thing about that book, the rest was pretty cool.

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Accurate.

:pancakes:

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A better question is: why wasn’t Velen abducted instead of Anduin? Is it because he never steps out into the open? Imagine having to fly through all of the Exodar to reach his chamber.

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It might be, but Genn Greymane - who tried to assassinate Sylvanas in Stormheim, and foiled her plan against Eyir whatever it was - was standing right there and was not abducted. I originally thought if Sylvanas wanted to torment people from Azeroth, why would she ignore him? And if she wanted revenge on the people who brought about her… not defeat, but maybe exile… Genn led the Alliance military against them during BFA, right alongside Jaina and her mom, so he should still be a good target.
And now you point out that if she was collecting weapons, like the world’s strongest mage, then the strongest light-user was also overlooked.

What the heck was Sylvanas’s criteria for the abductions?

Main characters

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I must be too new to this game overall, our at least these forums, because I’m still looking for something that makes sense in-universe.

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A crippled character can be a great character in a diplomatic or dialogue story actually. It would actually lend to some believable humility if Anduin was forced every day to live with the consequence of his idealism.

But that requires writers that are both decent and actually care about the Alliance story outside of reacting to the Horde’s story and using him (and Jaina) as soapboxes.

Not even that, they are obsessed with writing the same story over and over again.

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