Yeah and I don’t like this either, I don’t like being forced into things I don’t enjoy doing. Back when I was mythic raiding in bfa, I had to farm BG’s to get blood of the enemy, not fun. Mythic raiding is logistically not feasible for me right now since I’m working full time and I don’t want to tell people I’m not available because I have to raid for 3 hours.
M+ same story, I don’t like being forced to mythic raid or be behind by 13 ilvls on several pieces. It’s not reasonable to me.
That’s why all my friends and spouse also play haha
It’s all pve and the people who play both are always going to have an advantage as they two modes interact together. Blizz design for this way on purpose and that’s probably not changing anytime soon.
This is comparing someone who only does mythic+ to someone who raids mythic AND does mythic+.
It would be more apples to apples comparing someone who only does mythic+ to someone who only raids mythic, but I guess the gotcha there is some who only raids mythic and doesn’t also do mythic+ doesn’t exist.
The thing is that it’s easier for a mythic raider to reap the benefits from M+ than it is for a M+'er to reap the benefits from mythic raiding.
For mythic raiding you need to be there on time, you need to get on voice with people, you need to change your schedule around to fit raid hours. It’s not as easy as joining a +10 and blasting through a quick 25 min dungeon.
This could be an argument in favor of better rewards for raiders, but blizzard doesn’t offer M+'ers anything except for the great vault. As a M+ only player I have no way to chase higher level gear even though I’m capable of going higher than a +10.
If true, then Ion’s an even bigger moron than I thought. Although I shouldn’t be surprised, since their “we’re using private auras to reduce addon usage” ended up making addons almost required for mechanics like Smolderon orbs (since private auras hide them even from the default user interface).
If raid logging is a problem, remove the weekly lockout on raiding.
Good grief.
Dev’s want you to engage in the entire game, not just M+ or Raid or PvP.
they design gear progression around this.
Then pet battles would be part of gearing, so no.
pet battles are not one of the main pillars, but nice one anyways lol…
PvP then, which they removed from PvE gearing after Shadowlands season 1’s debacle because having it be part of PvE gearing was DUMB.
Anyway, if they really want to make everyone do everything, they’re really gonna have to put the screws on M+ by adding weekly lockouts to every dungeon. I might believe your theory when that happens (but it won’t).
You don’t need to participate in everything as a M raider.
– but my raid slot, bros will be toxic and drop me
well ya, that will 100% happen, but you don’t NEED it.
I’ve never needed to dedicate 3 hours to a raid. Pugging is very plug and play, and while I may not be Mythic raiding under those conditions, I was doing both M+ and raids when I was working 60+ hours a week just fine.
Adults with responsibilities tend to know when to stop playing a video game.
I suppose I can sympathize with this. My asocial behavior doesn’t show on the internet as much, but I do get it.
You don’t need to comment on content you don’t do either.
You also don’t need to classify yourself as an “M Raider” or whatever…
Just play the game and play the parts you like. Accept the rewards you acquire and be happy instead of acting like it’s a competition.
sounds like a bunch of poopsockers that need to touch grass
Anyone that says the phrase “touch grass” is definitely Cartman in the WoW episode.
No duh. Infinitely scaling systems will do that. This isn’t an argument.
Besides Mythic+ is ENTIRELY backloaded for the end of the season. Mythic Raiding is frontloaded.
If you want to keep up with Mythic Raiders early in the season, then do Mythic raids.
You’re either trolling others or showing how ignorant you are about how the gearing will be in The War Within, either way, it is misinformation.