That beg the question, “how exactly do they know you don’t have dbm and why were they asking?”
It’s likely because you were failing at mechanics, something that dbm would have helped you with.
It took you far longer to write your original post than it would have to just go download dbm.
I don’t understand the arguments about boss mods playing the game for you. Mythic Azshara is the only boss they are remotely necessary for (because of decrees mainly) and I autopiloted off all the other ones throughout prog since the bosses ran like clockwerk and didn’t do anything “difficult” or could throw a huge wrench in your plans.
Unless you are going for CE boss mods aren’t required and definitely aren’t going to make bad players good all of a sudden. If you can’t realize the boss does the same thing exactly at 27 seconds into the fight after 4 pulls, you wouldn’t do well in high end raiding anyway.
Also, boss mods are an absolute joke in heroic and such since the most popular strat for H Azshara is to ignore every single mechanic listed in the dungeon journal besides the decrees (even then those are technically possible to heal through).
There are many reasons to quit wow but addons existing is not one of them.
TSM is mostly just informational. And you can manipulate it’s use quite a bit. Not going to go into details but this one there are ways around it’s usefulness.
Just remember when the masses go all in a certain direction, there is always opportunity to use that to your advantage.
This is a necessary evil in order to be able to see who is pulling their weight and who is dialing it in. Not to say it’s all important, it is just one piece of information mostly except at the top end where if you are doing cutting edge raiding it is a must to see how to get the most out of something.
By top end i don’t mean world firsts, i mean top of the server progressive guilds that are working on mythic raiding/completion.
For me, addons add a lot more fun to the game. I love all of the extra information and customization it gives me and it makes me much more likely to log in.
For some guilds and bosses in the past, addons were imperative to completing cutting edge content. I always go back to heroic LK since it’s the best example for most things. A lot of us created a special unit frame just for the LK, created a special alert for defile casts to get a split second jump on who and where it would be in the room.
Keep in mind that not everyone is Method and there are a lot of great players in “normal” successful guilds. There are also a lot of medicore players alongside those players. Creating a UI where the most important information gets to you as fast as possible is an integral part of being a good player, and addons are a part of that in most cases.
This is where your post goes astray. Damage meters, Boss mods and AH addons have been around since vanilla. Theyre a bit more polished now. I also remember while pulling in pugs to fill our raid team it was the job of raid class leads to check armory and inspect our respective pugs gear and talets. Addons have also become less automative since then and become less “necessary” as the games UI and available information have become more refined. At least now we dont have to use some clueless leaders 5 minute microsoft paint drawing to bring down a boss. But just like that 5 minute paint drawing DBM or BigWigs doesnt make practice and knowledge any less meaningful.
i logged in just to do a big point by point refutation of most of what he was saying, but it all boils down to this, yeah. no need for me to waste the effort. he’s obviously never set foot in a progression raid, lol.
That information is in the game actually, you just have to pull and see how the boss casts, then remember the timing of it. DBM doesn’t make any of it significantly easier, and you could actually argue now, that the developers are making the game harder, by making that information less and less relevant, and DPS more and more important since berserk timers relative to DPS have gone down since LK.
lol the elite are out in force today. I just logged in posts even. hilarious.
You’re calling him a “pleb” based on his not living his whole life inside a video game? Okay then…
This is either an alt or your game back and are upset because you expect to jump into the hardest difficulties without putting in the work to learn stuff.
You also have no idea how hard high-end mechanics are if you think addons trivialize them. They don’t trivialize them - they make them manageable as playing without addons at high-end content is problably impossible save a few true CE players.
It’s at the point that whether or not one likes addons, they’re necessary to be on par with one’s fellow players using addons.
“A-a-addons make fights too easy!”
-Person with no mythic kills or IO score.
Sure, bud.
All the people coming in here
“lol you have done nothing hard gg loser git gud” are literally making at least one of his points for things like raider io.
That it clearly lists out all his experience or lack there of, so we immediately know what he’s qualified to group up for and/or give opinions on?
You have no clue what hes able to do, you have a somewhat generalized view of what hes currently done. He may be an amazing DPS that can follow fights no issue but you’d never know as you would just look at raider io and go “pass” until he claws his way into a good score grinding out lower key M+ and gets the arbitrary “good number”.
If he was an amazing dps, he wouldn’t be here complaining.
People who play less than 3 hours a week have cleared heroic EP, it’s not hard, the idea that you have to spend a bunch of time in game to do anything is archaic.
Um.
You do realize that you don’t have to use these “intrusive” add ons you hate so much right? Literally no one is making you use them. So it makes no sense whatsoever to try and say that theyvare the reason you quit.
TL;DR: “I am mad people make things to give people a heads up and do quality of life benefits!”
Seriously dude. Of all the asinine things to quit over, this is just the most. Why? :insert 5 paragraphs:…all because its optional! Yes you end up sucking compared to others because you don’t know what abilities that you have to interrupt or taunt on, and wipe the group.
That’s the thing though, all optional and “purists” of addons like you exist everywhere. Form a guild and then you are at peace, barely clearing 1 or two bosses in a raid together.
DBM and Bigwigs do nothing for the person but give a heads up. That is it. Hey you have an ability that hits harder if you are within 15 yards of each other? Hey hasa little display to show you. Why? Because as you get in the thick and heavy you tend to sometimes lose where you are in relation to others. Not a crutch, just a HuD. You still have full control, and it doesn’t stop you from doing stupid things by ignoring it.