Why High Elves Don't Work: A Primer

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Just roll a blood elf demon hunter. We’re better looking.

I wish Demon Hunters were other races other than Elves.

[Fyarsing-sargeras]

THe void elves have just as much a reason to take on an offensive stance to their blood elven kin as the high elves do. The void elves were exiled for their practices, and this can result in a violent response.

It seems somewhat unlikely that a group of scholars, most/all of whom accept that their banishment was a result of their disregard for the safety of their compatriots, would seek violent revenge upon the governing body that ostracized them.

Both Umbric and Alleria explicitly state that their goal is for the BE’s to join the Alliance – I can’t imagine that wantonly assaulting BE’s, at every opportunity, would be a strategy they’d endorse.

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Meanwhile, the HE’s have experienced numerous slights from the BE’s over the last decade or so – some direct, some indirect.

As you highlighted previously in this thread (or maybe the other one, not sure), many/most of the modern High Elves are exclusively citizens of Dalaran – it is their one and only home. It seems just as reasonable for HE’s to respond violently to BE’s, today, as it did for Thunderbluff Tauren to respond violently to Grimtotem Tauren in the early years.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

No.
Elves are edgelord supreeeeeeme

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

It is not unlikely. Human beings are unpredictable muppets. Elves can be too.

[Elyssaria-kargath]

but they don’t want to be on the Horde. on multiple occassions several individuals admit to changing their VE to a HE for the look, or moving their BE to the Alliance for HE.

That wasn’t his point, was it?

It kind of was.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

It seems somewhat unlikely that a group of scholars, most/all of whom accept that their banishment was a result of their disregard for the safety of their compatriots, would seek violent revenge upon the governing body that ostracized them.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

So, you’re edgy?

[Guzzle-barthilas]

It kind of was.

Do the whole quote, not just the one line.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

And in what case would make it wrong for someone to race change from either VE or BE to an alliance HE?

Nothing? My point is that it is about looks in many cases rather than a lore argument as many portray.
Fizz said people want it for the lore.
I pointed out that individuals often admit it isn’t about the lore, that the motivations are not about story.
heck,. story is the last thing because you seldom experience the story as X race.

So, you’re edgy?

Sometimes I get cut while looking in the mirror. That edgy.

[Elyssaria-kargath]

If he included in in part of his post, it is subject to adding a counter to that specific point.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

So you’re countering a single part of a post, removing the context that gives it meaning? Even though that point isn’t what he saying once given that context?

[Leinadh-stormrage]

So if you want that high elf look, you go horde.

The issue is that people don’t want the look, specifically, they want to be the High Elves that stuck with the Alliance.
If all the High Elves somehow became Void Elves back in 2017 (or whenever 7.3.5 was) and that was their intro, there would definitely have been some grumbling but it would A) tie up the “can we get high elves” question nicely, because they’d all become velves and B) make more sense as to why they’re immediately 200% pro-Alliance.

So much this, bravo

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Sometimes I get cut while looking in the mirror. That edgy.

Cool. So, while we got Jaina as an Dreadlord, we have you as an Edgelord.

Time for the taste of judgement then.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Says you’re a warrior not a paladin.
Prepare to get optic blasted.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Hey man, just because I am not holy, doesn’t mean I still can’t judge.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Your hair looks dumb. Get judged on.

[Elyssaria-kargath]

This is not a court case Or formal debate, do you honestly expect a response to every tid bit of someone’s post, especially regarding a conversation with another poster?

I wanted to make a counter about what I observed when he brought up a point regarding aesthetics/faction and people switching from “x” race to high elf.

I simply posed what’s wrong with it?

[Firewoman-spirestone]

And yet your entire argument is easily voided by "This is fiction and they could if they really wanted to. But since they all main horde, the Alliance is literally their enemy. "

Since this is based on absolutely no evidence it’s surprising anyone actually believes this.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

I expect you to argue what someone said and not take their words out of context to make it seem like they said something else.

He didn’t say that race changing to a helf was wrong. He said he thought it was indicative of a desire for a certain aesthetic.

[Firewoman-spirestone]