Why High Elves Don't Work: A Primer

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

Murg is the one of the best forum posters, and it isn’t because of the gif’s that he has, but it is because of how he uses the gifs. I like him.

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

Ok Avarie.

/dips her head in shame.

[Fezzy-draenor (Fezzy)]

They’re always an amusing addition to posts. My favorite was the one he used on me when I somehow thought he was a Nightborne. lol

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

Man, I still can’t get over the fact that went we post saying the Andiun slapped Wrathion, he post that one gif he made.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

I think what bothers me most is the disconnect between doing this WHILE at the SAME TIME giving the Horde Night Elves and justifying it

We can say all we want that NE and NB are “separated by 10k” years, but when their models are the same, just slightly tweaked with a different idle stance, it’s just very flimsy; specially when they basically use a lot of themes that were part of NE history and a lot of NE players wanted as a playable flavor.

They can, however, just ignore it. It worked for thems o far.

Doesn’t change the existence of the discussion itself to. Doesn’t change the fact that both you and I are still here arguing about it.

I do wanna ask, if you think they can just ignore it, why can’t you?

[Fyarsing-sargeras]

This doesn’t work when we can see post history.

Oh?

I suppose it depends on which groups we’re talking about – because some of the residents of the frontier outposts would vehemently disagree.

How were they abandoned? They literally went out there themselves.

Clearly, this was in reference to the high elf outposts where those high elves had willingly placed themselves away from Quel’thalas. Not the Quel’lithien high elves who were forced out of Quel’thalas, and as such, are not within the group that voluntarily left.

If I were you, I’d just respond with, “Uh, outposts, plural?!?1!?!??!?!?!?!”.

Thankfully, I’m not. I’ll just choose to ignore your attempt at reverse-engineering a completely erroneous statement into something remotely sensible.

This also doesn’t work when we can see post history.

Oh?

Let’s start here

some of the residents of the frontier outposts

Outposts is plural.
Quel’lithien was the only outpost in which the high elves would feel abandoned. As such, outposts is generally incorrect.

Hence, my point about outposts. To point out the frivolousness of your behavior.

Oh, I see! You didn’t make completely erroneous statements, or attempt to downplay said statements by shifting the focus of the discussion, because you’re simply ill-informed about the subject matter.

No, you had a 10-post plan to teach someone a lesson about what they apparently do… by doing it yourself. Definitely!

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

@Avarie-farstriders

Leave Murgy’s beard alone.

Also I want to apologize for last night to everyone. I’d rather not leave on bad terms.

[Firewoman-spirestone]

Then they should have been pretty aware that people would still ask for High Elves if they failed to give us a meaningful compromise.

No doubt they were aware.
Doesn’t mean it matters in the long run.

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

@Sarallesta-shattered-hand

Man, I still can’t get over the fact that went we post saying the Andiun slapped Wrathion, he post that one gif he made.

It bears repeating:

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

And really, I don’t think anyone at Blizzard cares if one or two megathreads populated by us on the subject were still going strong the day the last server goes offline. It’s not like flying, as I said, and the existence of these threads isn’t causing anyone at Bliz to lose any sleep

Most likely, but doesn’t change the fact that the discussion, as pointless as it is, will continue. And for every person that keeps asking for High Elves, there will also be people ready to say how they won’t work. And so forth and so on

[Firewoman-spirestone]

Ah…you beat me to it and did it better.

[Sarallesta-shattered-hand]

It bears repeating:

bears

And I was expecting bears…

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Doesn’t change the existence of the discussion itself to. Doesn’t change the fact that both you and I are still here arguing about it.

It has worked well for them so far. Think about it. Anytime they feel any pressure they throw a platitude. Ion has been the most direct about it, and in his view, high elves are too similar to be worth implementing.

I do wanna ask, if you think they can just ignore it, why can’t you?

One could ask the same of you. If you know they are ignoring you, why continue? Of course, I believe it is a simple thing as to be heard.

Oh?

I didn’t read anything you wrote beyond here.

It bears repeating:

You need to have the fist land more slowly.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

No doubt they were aware.
Doesn’t mean it matters in the long run

There would have been less threads about High Elves. Maybe we would be discussing other things. I wonder what.

I think I’d be “Accept that the High Elves are Void Elves and all you guys wanted was to be a pretty blond elves you don’t care about the actual lore hissssssss” or maybe I’d be “It really doesn’t make sense that VE’s are blue but I get it, they wanted them to look different sigh”

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Its mostly a PR thing. They don’t want to be outright screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It doesn’t benefit them.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Which is kinda super baloney since Void Elves took even more population away from the Blood Elves so I already told you it makes little sense.

I don’t care about the Blood elf population as it will always be enough for story purposes. I can see how changing High Elves from scattered groups of individuals into a population that will appear huge based on the people rolling one will effect the Blood Elf story

I get that, but if your answer for “we’d like this content in the game” and your answer is “well make it yourself” you are missing the point.

Like if your answer to “we think giving the alliance a direct copy of our most popular race” is just “stop being greedy, I’ve decided it can’t effect you” is just ignoring the other side. Much like pretending that not getting exactly what you want is Blizzard ignoring the requests of the player base as opposed to balancing competing desires.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

It has worked well for them so far. Think about it. Anytime they feel any pressure they throw a platitude. Ion has been the most direct about it, and in his view, high elves are too similar to be worth implementing.

And as long we disagree with him, we will continue with the request for High Elves to be addressed on a meaningful way

One could ask the same of you. If you know they are ignoring you, why continue? Of course, I believe it is a simple thing as to be heard.

Because I hope someday they change their mind.

Are you afraid they might?

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

@Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord

Most likely, but doesn’t change the fact that the discussion, as pointless as it is, will continue. And for every person that keeps asking for High Elves, there will also be people ready to say how they won’t work. And so forth and so on

@Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord

@Murgatroyd-lightbringer

And really, I don’t think anyone at Blizzard cares if one or two megathreads populated by us on the subject were still going strong the day the last server goes offline. It’s not like flying, as I said, and the existence of these threads isn’t causing anyone at Bliz to lose any sleep

Most likely, but doesn’t change the fact that the discussion, as pointless as it is, will continue. And for every person that keeps asking for High Elves, there will also be people ready to say how they won’t work. And so forth and so on

And I promise…

[Firewoman-spirestone]

Most likely, but doesn’t change the fact that the discussion, as pointless as it is, will continue. And for every person that keeps asking for High Elves, there will also be people ready to say how they won’t work. And so forth and so on

I have to wonder if there is any way they can clearly say ‘no’ to the helfer request that would actually stop the asking.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

Truly a Danse Macabre