I mean you have new areas that are looking great.
The Stormwind port for example added in Wrath really fit into the town.
Our docks are… outside of Orgrimmar, so to get there we have to cross a whole area that is unguarded and unprotected.
Orgrimmar has way too many phasing issues because Grommash Hold is at very entrance of the city.
Also Stormwind portal room is much better, ours is close, ok but to get to some other areas, including Dornogal, we have to go to the sublevel to find it, and it is not always clear for everyone this, so people may miss these, whilst yours is clearly on a big line all the portals.
lol my initial response is why’s he talking to me like I’m one of them!?!
But it’s fair tbh. I was horde all the way in classic, but I recently came back to retail and my friends were alliance.
Fair criticisms too. I saw someone above suggest the portal room design in orgrimarr made sense because they were out by the entrance so they could control it better, but honestly I think it was just a lazy place to put them.
I think with Org they initially wanted to stick more to the Zepplin thing so when Stormwind got a dock, Org got zepplin towers up above the town, which was a cool idea, but I agree that if they are going to add docks they could’ve added a port that actually felt like it was part of the city.
BTW they did add a whole new floor in the mage tower for the new expansion, so it is kinda the same issue over there, but I think the mage tower just feels more like it belongs the way it was designed in Stormwind as opposed to Org. The whole high magic is just a little more out of place in a city of Orcs and trolls - would have made more sense in Silvermoon, but nobody wants Silvermoon to become the capital of the horde.
Since the Iron Horde… I been working and hopeing Orc and repplate the Tech, I was happy to see Iron star use in BFA
As well any black fuse tech… now We don’t see much of it… I mean… I want to see orce advace form Cave man warrior to rival gnomes and goblin we nearly have it with share goblin help… WE BUILD A RAILWAY FOR RAGS SAKES!! (sadly, that never came to life… thanks WOD)
I was listening to a lore video yesterday and it said that Thrall specifically refused requests to relocate to Ashenvale and remain in Durotar even though Ashenvale is a much nicer environment because he sees it as a penance for what Orcs did during the first and second wars. This could also explain why they keep the architecture primitive as well.
I don’t necessarily agree with that mindset, but at least there’s a lore-based explanation.
Tell me you don’t keep up with the Horde story without telling me you don’t keep up with the Horde story.
Most of the things you complained about were old Horde before Thrall reformed it (yeah it dipped it’s toes back in those waters when Garrosh went crazy, but he dead now) but the Horde is so multicultural.
Orcs are displaced people trying to build a home a lot of their savage practices have been regulated to the past. But they still love honor and throwing down. So now they fit the noble savage archetype.
If you don’t like Orgrimmar hang out in Silvermoon. Though the Vulpera encampment is in the back half of Org where the second bank / AH is that’s also where the Pandaren are.
But the Horde is so interesting to me, outside when they have a villain War chief; because it feels like a true multicultural collective.
Darkspear being my fav.
The modern Horde have also rebelled and have ousted anytime we’ve had a villainous War Chief. That’s my horde. The horde that says enough fights back against corrupt leaders, so they can go back to living in relative peace.
Everytime I get scared my Horde is gone, we rally back up and stand up against facists!
He literally stood up to a blood thirsty fascist to save his people. He rallied the people behind him. The bootlickers are the ones that cheered on Sylvanis’s fascism.
They’re just vibes dude idk. In the engineering front, tauren use wind totems to automate their elevators and mills, and could theoretically use lightning totems to generate pollution free energy. Thunder Totem also has an empty tent on the top floor that I like to log my Tauren out, it’s like his own little house.
Horde, well, Orcs use Cob. Cob is a mixture of river sand, mud, and straw. It makes for a great thermal mass so in the summer the houses are cool, and in winter they take very little to heat.
((Please learn about Cob housing IRL))
Sadly, the Alliance is still using stick construction for housing which requires tons of heating (note those fireplaces are always goin).
Then there is the technical advantage the goblins have. They might of lost their homeland but they have been everywhere creating new and wonderful things. Meanwhile the gnomes can’t even clean up their own home.
I think as propaganda goes, the OP didn’t know wtf they are talking about.
I’m familiar with cob construction, and I’m fully aware that none of what I mentioned is “just mud” any more than the Horde “mud huts” in question are. That was the point. The OP, like some other players in this thread, has some wild, signifying hang-ups about the Horde.