No self-respecting Orc would ever take commands from a little fuzzball. Unless it was Nisha, she fights like a true Orc.
There’s no real in-world reason for this.
The Horde look the way they do because it’s part of the Intellectual Property.
And, that’s fair. There are many people who look at Horde-y things and say, “Yup, that’s the Horde” and it’s basically the brand. If they change that… it wouldn’t be the Horde.
What would you propose to change? The Tauren have their own architecture and culture. The Trolls do too. So do the Blood Elves. The Forsaken are basically goth humans going full Frankenstein’s Lab. The Vulpera were desert people riding around in wagons. The Nightborne are the most advanced and refined…
Would you say… blend Tauren stuff with the Vulpera wagons? Maybe some Taurenfolk take to the wanderer’s life. Or maybe the Vulpera outfit their alpaca with spiky armor. Do the Nightborne feel inspired by Forsaken plague-spreaders that they build their own to dispense… arcwine?
These are highly disparate cultures and yes, they’re going to struggle to define a unifying theme. So, the default is to go back to what the Horde initially was. Red-roofed spiky huts.
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I meant the House of Nobles that time.
Funny that you say this. If you play Horde, yes Orgrimmar is full of frenzy and mudhuts. However, there are many quests throughout the world, that show you not every Orc is like that. But allot of the Orc quest givers are like that.
This is one of the things that make little sense in an MMO Live-Service game. They could continue to make changes here and there in each Major City with each patch, break down buildings, build new ones. Look at Stormwind. For the most part it looks like back in classic. Yes it gained a harbor and the Night Elf District got turned into a Park of remembering. But the other districts are the same.
It was always the Park District it was a just popular hang out for night elves. Deathwing destroyed it in Cataclysm and wasn’t rebuilt until Legion.
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Orcs - kept to themselves, every bit as good as the Tauren until Kil’jaeden literally invated their spiritual leader’s dreams and convinced them the Drae’nai were the enemy.
The Darkspear trolls is the troll tribe that joined the horde. They were literally the underdogs of all troll tribes. They chose not to give in to dark magics to enhance their power, and spent years looking for safety before joining the horde.
Undead - you can’t really justify the behavior of Silvanas etc, but obviously they’ve been through a lot. Basically, the entire horde is made up of those seeking refuge and those seeking redemption.
Note that they made a point to reverse the typical roles with the Draenai and Blood Elves… Draenai were the refugees between those two races, but their history with Orcs and that they crashed near the Night Elves it made sense they joined the alliance. However, it’s worth acknowledging that this was another refugee race that also happened to be the most monstrous looking alliance race. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
I’m not saying alliance are worse somehow, but I think if you try to find a deeper meaning in WoW you’ll see that people/races born into privilege are flawed and sometimes use that privilege for evil even if they aren’t inherently evil, and people/races born with a massive disadvantage are also flawed but are also largely good. There’re so many times the two sides were very close to coming together over the years and it’s been ruined by actions from both sides at different times.
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Well then I guess that means the Horde isn’t for you. Goodbye.
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Well, there is when OP is actually trolling and ignoring every time facts are pointed.
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Hey don’t credit the orcs with tauren traditions you wretched uncultured gnome! The orcs just kill some pigs and oversized scorpions.
It’s the tauren who tell their youth that they can’t be considered adults until they invade a quilboar camp and return with ten belts taken from the corpses of slain quilboar and the severed head of their chieftain.
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Never going to stop being mad that pretty much everything the Horde does now is for the Alliance’s sensibilities.
Every time this happens I feel less and less bad about Teldrassil.
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To be fair the elves had it coming i mean look at all the lumber they were hoarding
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Never going to stop being mad that pretty much everything the Horde does now is for the Alliance’s sensibilities.
I’m gonna push back on that just a little because it’s just a fact that 3/4 of the original alliance races were directly descendent from creations of the Titans. The entire story arc with the titans is going to be a little more catered towards those races.
Also to wrap it back into Earth culture - There’s no real denying that the alliance races are kinda like the Europeans where the horde are largely the tribal/indigenous people.
If you actually play both sides in this game, it’s pretty apparent that nobody is evil… except maybe the undead. And I’d argue that all 4 of the alliance races have pretty massive flaws that only became more because they were the most influential races. Humans had a lot of infighting… Dwarves could forsake the present and lose themselves in the past… Gnomes kinda had the opposite problem where they forsake everything with their drive for innovation, and Night Elves had it so easy they just wanted to forget everyone else and it took a big wake-up call for them to get off their high horse and actually play a role in helping the world. (Throughout most of this the horde races were just struggling to survive)
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Any of those things would mean the Horde gets actual attention in the story. But Blizzard is keen on making the story alliance only with 4 different blond humans getting the whole spotlight and any other take would be against that so they rather ignore the Horde at large instead and pretend they don’t even exist.
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Well, they wanted the Horde and the Alliance to be buddies, but if it wasn’t clear by looking at the Alliance that nothing truly distinct survives in the Alliance, or around it. They all eventually adhere to the Human set of morals. Which is what’s happening to the Horde right now. So yeah, whever said Red Alliance was spot on.
And the next expansion isn’t looking too good. It might concern the belf zones, but I have a huge suspicion we are gonna be running around Anduin or Jaina or other Alliance characters as Horde, or Red Alliance and I can’t stand that crap.
Hope they realize that when I change characters from blue to red I expect a different experience, right or at least a different ambiance? Cause I don’t think they do any more, or if they do the just don’t give a crap.
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Are they really?
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Outside of causing global problems the writers haven’t seen fit to give the Horde much depth.
All they’ve done over the progress of several expansion is used us as a plot device then side lined us once we lost all our explosive or interesting characters.
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You’re kidding right…? Vulpera are only 3-4 expansions ago. Their models are more re updated then that gnome you’re playing.
We walk around like alliance. We’re all murder hobos so that point is moot.
Stone age design? Blood elves City says nah gal. Horde cities look better than the alliance cliche of medieval style castle 1 and crashed ship and tree.
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for the love of god please add this to the game
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R.I.P. Warcraft 3 Night Elves
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It’s their culture. If you don’t like their culture, then don’t play Horde.
This is like choosing to live in the Mongolion steppe and complaining about why haven’t the people there stopped being nomads, when you should just live in a city where you can have your Starbucks instead. No one is “wrong;” it just doesn’t suit you.
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