Why greater drums? just add tinnitus

How? People will still go for the drums. You think the 8 yard range matters? “Hey, get ready to cast drums. Alright, stack now.”

If you dont know, let someone explain it to you.

Sounds like you don’t know.

What are you talking about people are still going to do the drums meta in phase 1

Exactly! I’m so confused right now.

To be fair mate, the issue with drums is that if you have them raid wide, then you have 4 LW per drum (The buffs stack) to maintain a MP/5 buff. a sweet speed buff (my fav drum) and the other one (sp/ap I think). It’s still better but it doesn’t change much and it makes the raid easier to boot. They would have to add a debuff that makes you unable to receive benefits of other drums if they wanted to go that route, then it would be great.

Anyone requiring drums for their raid pre-Sunwell is not worth playing with. If you disagree, then you pay the cost of min/maxing.

Why do so many people want to have every advantage without having to pay for them? Is this just one of the consequences of classic being flooded by retail players?

I’m not convinced yet 8 yard drums will be amazing for caster groups. Melee are naturally close to each other on most fights and can dps while moving, but ranged tends to be spread out. If you’re moving to get 5% haste buff, it’s a dps loss unless you can effectively dps while moving. And I think in a lot of cases, you’ll have to move for several seconds to stack.

Mages that are not getting Tailoring to craft Spellfire talking about feeling mandated to go LW is cringe.

Blame PS players, not retail players.

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since they would make Leatherworking feel mandatory

fond memories we all have of drum rotations

the behavior of the original items doesn’t have to change

This is easily the most tone-deaf and idiotic roller-coaster of reasoning I have ever read

Literally amplifying the problem. Would have been better if you just did nothing

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Doesn’t even know who to blame lol. Retail players don’t have anything to do with classic metas clown

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I’m sorry for the poster above me. Toxicity should be banned from forums.

Unpopular opinion: When drums are “required” it’s already late game. PPl quit anyway; so it would not be a big deal.

Those that mandate drums, let them play together. I will take TBC casually this time, and do more PVP. I will also raid in my PVP talent if allowed.

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I’m impressed how people are upset with LW but never were with World Buffs.
World Buffs made people clear molten core in greens.

Drums do not.

What are you talking about, world buffs are universally hated.

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Love playing with them, hate having to get them.

And yet they didn’t get 0,001% of the hate drums are getting.

Which is fun, because Drums are not even comparable with world buffs.

I got you bro, we just need 4 people in the group with LW, you can be the 5th and just spam drums go brrrr

A lot people hated WB but accepted them in the game since that was part of original vanilla. Now people realize #nochanges has flaws and want to see #somechanges for TBC.

Pretty safe bet as part of this cash grab you’re doing is you’re going to release WotLK. The last thing ANY PLAYER HERE wants to do is drop blacksmithing for LWing only to have to drop and reskill blacksmithing. Please don’t do that. I can’t think of a worse game design.