No. Fellow players are perfectly capable of helping themselves out. There are more than enough resources out there to educate yourself. If you’re not self-motivated, or self-capable of improvement, you’re automatically not someone I’d want to waste time on helping. I only help those that really don’t need it who will maximize the return and growth on the help I give.
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Does that make you elitist? Im pretty sure everyone dislikes playing with people that make it not fun…
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Yes, because what sucks the fun out is bad players. Not that I’m spectacular, but I don’t think it’s too much to want to play with people of equal dedication.
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Exactly. People who cry about elitism don’t realize that whatever it is that makes the game “unfun” for them (them being bad players or casuals in this case), those same emotions and feelings of “unfun” sweep over “elitists” when they lose or have to deal with incompetence.
OP is asking for people to change their personal feelings on what is fun and isn’t fun to suit him instead of letting the individual decide and keep their preferences.
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All depends what are you calling “Elitist”.
When I’m creating a group (rare occasion, as I prefer to apply to other groups), it’s filled in seconds with DPS ranging from ilvl 370 and 0 io score to 400+ and 800+ score.
In what world would I possibly invite an ilvl 370 dps, if I have a better option? How is it elitist?
A point worth noting : Groups with different servers. I’ll never play with these people again in my life. Why would I invest time to help ?
I’m helping guildies with pleasure, better is average guild gear, better we’ll do in raid ! this help and time are WORTH it.
I think most people raging about being declined due to low IO score are just trying to do content not designed for them. So funny to see a player who literally NEVER did an M+ asking to join a +8 group. It’s an automatic “NO”, they have no idea what affixes are, how they work. Start with a +2 and then go up.
Side note, if I’m doing something easy, like +2,+3, I usually grab the class I want in group, regardless of ilvl and io score
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Well then I must be elitist. I dont like playing with people who dont speak the same language. Its really hard to get anything across.
Can we just admit that it’s 2019 and everyone should speak my language. People can easily use a translator to change what they want to say into English. Its about time we start acting like adults and make it easier to communicate!
Oh I get it now, this entitlement thing is fun.
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Actually, this point is worth discussing more !
We have plenty of translation solutions which are better and better every day.
Microsoft Azure provides easy APIs for that (We are using them in our products).
I would love Blizzard add this option in chat :
Auto translate to English(or other language)
Player could define spoken language in preferences, so translator knows the source language.
It will require an API call by message, but in my experience it’s ultra-fast: Around 5ms delay.
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Aww jeez Rick the pixels wouldnt let me join there group.
Shut up morty
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Here’s what I’d like to know:
Does the elitist care in any way if others do not find them impressive, or are they just wholly immersed in their own little bubble where they are God and immune to others’ views?
I mean, I get that an elitist thinks he’s super special and infinitely better than me in comparing current raid progress and/or ilvl, but all I see is that the elitist chooses to spend their WoW time in a different way than I do.
If I wanted to invest all my time in raiding and gear chasing and such, then I’d have what the elitists have if not more. I know this. But do the elitists know it? Or do they assume that if someone doesn’t have their same stuff or whatever that it’s because they aren’t good enough to get it?
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I dont care if you are good enough to go get it. If you don’t have it, then you are a liability that I am not obligated to bring along.
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More that I just don’t want to be present the day you decide you want to advance. Especially if you want to skip to the end.
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For me, personally, I don’t care if others find me impressive. I find certain measures of performance impressive and strive for those. When I achieve them, I thus find myself impressive and feel good about myself. My focus is solely on my own internal motivation and becoming that which I wish I could be.
I have a kinship that is innate with other such people, and am attracted to it, and the mindset gives me the highest chance at success when I group with them.
Also, I don’t believe or care about the “what could be”.
I’m sure there are people out there that “could be” better than MJ, lebron, curry, etc. if they only put in the time and effort towards that versus whatever else it is they do. They didn’t and so it’s irrelevant. All that matters is what you PROVE you can do. Even if you run your mouth saying “I COULD do it” I’m not inclined to believe you unless you do.
Not really. It goes both ways, I was pugging a normal BoD the other day. A bunch of people took the wave to the face/died.
When i pointed it out i got removed from the group because apparently I was being toxic.
This also happens a lot in keys. People get called put on a screwup and leave (happens a lot in The 4-9 range)
It’s not the “look at me i’m better than you” attitude most of the time -although it happens. It’s mostly the: “do I wanna take the chance on a random to waste my time?” Question that gets people rejected.
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Maybe I’m just to old… but I’ve never understood why the ‘nerds’ of the world chose to beat up the other ‘nerds’ of the world when most of us (at least from back in the day before being a nerd was popular) were some of the most picked on people in social circles. Just boggles my mind. If anything we should lift each other up and help each other out.
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+100. Could not agree more.
I personally have never really faced much “elitism” in WoW. But even if I did/do it wouldn’t really bother me as I don’t care enough about “scores” and all that to begin with.
I believe that if you have enough real life experience things like numbers in a video game don’t really mean anything in comparison. No one is going to recite your gear score or number of mythic kills at your funeral.
Some nerds are engineers others are friendless ant farmers.
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I’m not seeing how that ties in to what I was asking. You seem to be thinking of a certain kind of scenario I guess in which I’m trying to join your group to do something? ![:confused:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/confused.png?v=6" ":confused:")
Huh…?
Being a nerd and liking certain things doesn’t implicate any other part of your personality. That’s just a hasty generalization fallacy.
I’ve played D&D since I was in middle school with the nerdiest kids. I’ve been to lan-parties where you had to haul your own PC. I was in robotics club. I also played hackysack in highschool every day during lunch with stoners. I was also on two varsity sports teams as first string and have a few state swimming championships for club sports.
People are more varied than you give them credit for.
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It’s the same reason bullying is on the rise me thinks.
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