Ok, you dont have to believe me. Just look at some of the relatively recent happenings in the U.S. Military.
Bradley Manning, for example. Look at that situation and tell me if it was ONLY Manning that was held accountable.
Beau Berghdal is another example.
Point is, Soldiers are held accountable for their actions but depending on those actions people below, around and above them are held accountable as well.
It would have been nice if there was more nuance to Teldrassil’s destruction, a secret hand behind it. However, they made it all rather pointless and stupid and nothing more than Sylvana appeasing the Jailer with souls.
Meanwhile Ion and Co. are at Blizzard HQ with grins n’ giggles saying, “Don’t you guys just LOVE our Moral Gray Storyline? Wait…why are you all upset?”
Well he’s not there for you to be a fan of so what you think of him is of little concequence to me. He still went out like a boss though.
No my point was attributing incompetance and stupidity. Evil motive had nothing to do with it. If anyone’s not listening it’s certainly isn’t me.
You pay $15 a month to make a character in WoW and enjoy it’s story, right? See your character play the role of Azeroth’s big hero? It seems like a lousy thing to do to go around telling players “What you do doesn’t matter because your toon isn’t really lore canon”.
Or maybe you don’t care because you’re just here to do the PvP? Raids and Mythic+? Whatever. Just knock off the “You’re not really canon talk”.
It is between the Horde and the Alliance.
They don’t deserve getting tortured by the Void just because they kept an oath of silence. No one does.
Sometimes I think this forum is a miniature version of hell.
You mean the Maw?
If you mean that the Maw is the 10th level of hell, than yes, yes indeed. 
No wonder there are so many people with nelf toons on here.
That is ultimately one of the main purposes of any trial involving laws and customs of war, which is to narrow down and attribute responsibility.
It is not so much that all such people above and below are held accountable, as much as they are investigated for the sake of due diligence.
Also, in any form of Government, there is also a problem with bureaucracy, and a lot of it is about who higher-ups can throw under the bus to protect themselves.
You are more than welcome to like him, I can only speak for myself.
Well, considering you have been failing to understand what I am even arguing, it certainly is you.
You can think that, but it’s true. Your character isn’t canon. Sorry bud.
Maybe. Though, is someone really Horde if they are protecting the Banshee Queen?
I disagree.
If Azmodeus rules the 9 layers, who rules the 10th?
His long lost cousin, twice removed on his mothers side. We don’t talk about him.
Yeah, you’re definitely not military.
Saufang is the only shown. By a company that typically uses one hero to highlight that a group feels.
And it should be noted that, in a medium where shifting the subject is common, the poster was commenting your conflation of Saurfang with Sylvanas, which isn’t addressed.
Back to the OP for a second, Im surprised how often this prompt appears. Not that its particularly common, but something is to be said if it comes up more than a few times a year.
Most people I think hit the nail on the head pretty well. Tauren culture has a lot more in common with Orcs and Trolls than they do with almost the entire Alliance and their modern history and survival is closely tied with the Horde.
What I think what does Tauren a disservice is they’ve always been shown subordinate to the Orcs or always in coalition with someone. Rarely do they get something that is purely, or mostly, them in a progressive/forward fashion. Outside of Mulgore very few things show tauren in a exclusive and proactive sense. They don’t have “territory” to defend, borders to enforce, hunting grounds or resources to collect. They kinda just… exist.
They’re side characters in their own story. Whereas Stormwind and Ironforge got their own distinct stories, areas, and problems, Ogrimmar and Thunderbluff were one in the same. One just had spikes, the other totems. Giving the tauren story (good, proactive, and meaningful story) I think would really clear up what can only be described as ambiguity.
Neither are you.
But I am mostly talking about the legal proceedings in laws and customs of war. Not necessarily how the military specifically deals with certain, internal issues.
I am not conflating Saurfang with Sylvans. I hold the two responsible for different crimes. Saurfang, who organized and lead an unjust war. And Sylvanas for Genocide.
Ok, sure.
Feel like this is kind of a problem with the Kalimdor Horde all together. It’s just kind of abandoned and not given a proper place in the story until it comes time for “Faction War”.
No, you aren’t. You have said that the Alliance as a military organization should not and cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members. That is patently false, especially in the real world.
Far more BEs so it’s worst then Hell
That Hawthorne was incompetent instead of evil? As I said, that was my point from the very beginning, so I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say now.
I’m beginning to wonder if you’re arguing just for the sake of arguing so I’m just going to drop this subject here.
I’m not going to lower myself to this by claiming “your character isn’t lore canon either”, mostly because it’s rude, but also because you don’t seem to care that much. You do you.
An orc mom or a human smuggler. Either way, the Void’s just happy to run rampant through someone’s mind and cause suffering.
Meanwhile, the Void laughs at you.
Todd McFarlane’s Spawn. 
Hey wait a minute
If only Blizzard stuck with their original WC3 idea if Thrall using the Tauren as the model for the naturalistic, orcish culture that he desired for his new Horde.
Which is why I find it so strange that he would choose Garrosh instead of Carine as Warcheif. Garrosh represented a Horde that Thrall was trying to distance himself from, and Carine represented the future he wanted for his people.
Sad cow hours.
They would be responsible for holding their own people accountable, sure. I am sure the commander of that operation would be investigated, but probably not punished, especially not in a time of war.
Soldiers going AWOL and acting on their own, against the direct orders of their associated military, are not longer acting on behalf of that organization, and are tried as individuals for the crimes they commit. That is how it works in the real world.
Siiigh, okay, let me look up the original post.
See… I never disagree that he could be incompetent. I always argued against him being evil only.
You are the one who kept this going.
its not rude, it’s the truth.
That is what happens to Sylvanas loyalists.
The void isn’t real.