Low-key glad they didn’t. The orcs don’t need to be ~peaceful gentle giants~, they’re fine, they were fine until the demon juice. They can be ruthless warriors who enjoy fights to the death (as long as those fights are consentual, I guess) and bathing in the blood of their kill (actual lore) while not being mindless monsters high on questionable substances. Like what does Thrall even know, he was literally a dude’s pet.
Human smuggler was a sylvanas Loyalist? This is news to me.
…Really? I never would have guessed.
I would have preferred it if he made Cairne warchief instead of Garrosh. It would have saved a lot of people a lot of headaches.
Knowing Blizzard though they would have had Garrosh challenge him to Mak’gora and usurp control of the Horde and we’d still be in the same boat. At least Thrall wouldn’t have such a big OOPS on his record though.
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Here is where you are incorrect again. Until released by said organization they are still part of it.
During the surge in '07 a lot of Soldiers went AWOL. Some stayed in the states, others left. Those that got caught or turned themselves in were tried under military tribunal as Soldiers. They retain their status until discharged. In the case of the above, usually a DD, BCD or OTH discharge.
There was an NCO that decided on his own to go to a village in Afghanistan and shoot the local populace because he was mad about losing his Soldiers. He was tried as a Soldier and retained that status until discharged. The military and by extension the U.S. Government were held responsible for his actions and had to make amends.
At no time did the military or the government say, “That wasn’t our responsibility.”
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But, you know what? You already have it in your head that I couldn’t possibly be military and therfore not know how a military works (despite you yourself admitting that you aren’t military).
So how about we chalk it up to Blizzard writing.
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Sorry, meant to say “they”, as in “Blizzard” hadn’t stuck with orcs being modeled after tauren.
I agree that Cairne is definitely a better choice, don’t know why Thrall picked Garrosh, afaik he didn’t even want the job.
Post-Wrath hero hype, is my best guess. Garrosh led the Horde troops in Northrend, Lich King was defeated, and Garrosh was riding the high winds of the Horde’s great hero of the moment.
It was just bad luck that Thrall got called away to be World Shaman at the same time.
If she had information that she was not forthcoming with, then yes.
Somehow I do not doubt you.
This is for the purposes of prosecution though. The maintain the membership status so they can be tried and punished by the organization as a member and not as an autonomous, sovereign person.
It has nothing to do with blame staking, legally speaking.
Being in the military doesn’t mean one knows the ins and out of the laws and customs of war.
It does with regard to what you have to abide by. It’s training we receive regularly.
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OR, now hear me out here for a moment, they didn’t want to get poked with sharp objects by dark rangers because they refused to keep quiet.
Witness intimidation was an effective tactic by the Mafia who didn’t want their members going to jail on the account of testimonials.
This seems to be the case for the group of Horde refugees, supported by the apothacary’s statement that they were made to swear an oath of silence.
It’s possible the human smuggler was just paid off to keep quiet. No way to know for that one.
Either case, none of these really make them “Sylvanas Loyalists”.
Sarcasm is a waste of time with you. 
The Void is laughing at the Alliance and their fear of Sylvanas allowing them to use it in such nasty methods.
Does that make it easier?
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To a degree. But it’s basic education. Professionals require as much as seven years of post-secondary education. Perhaps even more for specialists.
Either way, she is on the wrong side.
The Void is not, in itself, an entity. It’s just a non-sentient force.
So, tell me then.
Was the Horde responsible for the Wrathgate Incident?
Was the Horde held responsible for the Wrathgate incident?
The Forsaken were. Putress was dealt with, and Sylvanas was put under watch by Thrall’s Kor’kron. Sylvanas was ultimately only watched and not prosecuted because she ultimately wasn’t responsible for the Wrathgate.
So, the Horde was responsible for them?
I mean, in the same sense a court is responsible for trying criminals. But the Horde, as an institution, was not punished by an international tribunal for the crimes of the traitors in their ranks.
I mean, if you think they should of been, I am sure there are plenty of Alliance fanboys who would agree with you.
We’re not debating punishment, we’re debating accountability and responsibility. Why should the Forsaken be held responsible for Wrathgate (done by a rogue element acting against orders) if the Alliance or at the very least Stormwind aren’t held accountable or responsible for Taurajo?
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Well… They weren’t really. Putress was dealt with, and Sylvanas was put under watch. Likely because it was unclear if she had anything to do with it or not.
Ultimately though, Forsaken leadership uninvolved with Putress retained their position. There is no accountability or responsibility without punishment, and no one was punished. Aside from those directly responsible.
Um…
Yeah, there was.
As I mentioned originally, those above and below are often investigated for the sake of due diligence. The main purpose of a trial is mainly to discern proper placement of blame. Sylvanas was not punished, she was watched.
There was no trial following Wrathgate. Also, punishment doesn’t have to mean jail time or execution.
I don’t think trials are terribly common on Azeroth. I would still consider putting Sylvanas under watch, not a punishment, but an investigated. She still maintained her authority with the Forsaken, and was able to operate however she saw fit, There was no punishment there.