Why don't Tauren join the Alliance?

You have to kill a minimum of thirty-three Blood Elves in that quest. And that’s just by game scale.

Bad headcanon. The Purge of Dalaran is only supported by cop boot lickers that think rights don’t matter.

Jaina: Wards Teldrassil for the Alliance to help defend the Divine Bell.
Sunreaver Agent: Uses a portal to sneak out the Divine Bell.
Jaina: TrAItOrs!!!

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Jaina: Uses Theramore to launch a massive invasion of Horde lands, killing hundreds if not thousands of civillians depending on game scale

Garrosh: Destroys Theramore with minimal loss of civillian life

Jaina: OmG U MONSTER

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Hundreds if not thousands of civilians sounds equally fantastical as a claim of five.

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Point is, she did the same exact thing the Sunweavers did in that she was actively helping the alliance and than acted suprised when her city suddenly became a viable military target, because no one in game or out of it understands what the term being Neutral means.

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Well you see, Garrosh is a hulking tattooed savage thuggish dark-skinned brute who is motivated by spite and envy and low cunning and childish glee at destruction, so when he acts against Theramore it’s baseless and malicious and treacherous and cruel and monstrous.
Jaina is a pure and innocent and noble fair* maiden, wishing only for peace. She cannot possibly be responsible for causing anyone any harm - at least, not before the savage, brutal, thoughtless actions of the inhuman creature described above irrevocably tarnish her innocence and marr her frail psyche nigh beyond all recall, poor dear. Thankfully her man was nearby to bring her out of her hysterics.

Any deeply disturbing sub/full-on text is the game’s own.

*in multiple senses of the term.
Yeeep. Ayep. Uh-huh.

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I wish I could like this more than once.

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No, I get that. Hence why I didn’t contest it. Doesn’t make his other claim valid anymore than Ikaar’s.

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Fair enough, while we’ll never truely know how many civilians died, we can agree at least, that a lot of innocent lives were lost. How many is debatable but still.

wasnt there some tidbits of like how garroshs bomb destroyed the place so it killed people in all timelines/universes or something that were present there at the time or something.

I would say some certainly were, the events of any campaign probably include that. Especially with the camp event specifically. Though suppodely being a response to false intel and drawing the Horde off the Night Elves. Being involved doesn’t make Jaina free of consequences despite wanting peace.

This is a long purported bit of false information. I ended up buying Tides of War and no, it isn’t a thing. The manas bomb tore holes in reality in a portal-like manner. But it didn’t kill those people in all timelines.

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I remember thinking that too, but apparently it was just a misinterpretation by the first person who leaked that scene from the book, and the bomb’s after-effects were just flashing visions of alternate universes as some sort of arcane distortion.

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Alright sounds good.

WHAT?

That is not how that works, especially in real life.

:cactus:

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It is, however, exactly how lots of people think it works in real life. Anything bad done by normal good right people is actually not their fault, it’s a few totally inexplicable bad apples in their midst that are the result of individual missteps and choices which most definitely do not spoil the barrel and any purported connection between them and the other apples is lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Anything bad done by weird bad wrong people is the result of their inherent nature due to their malformed souls/inferior genes/backwards and barbaric culture and they are irredeemable scum who must be forcibly civilized with maximum firepower.

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Don’t waste your breathe. She’ll justify just about anything the alliance does, especially the Night Elves against the horde, because Horde bad, savage and backwards. People like her, honestly make me hate playing alliance and make me wish I had stayed horde.

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Sometimes I think the only way for certain Horde races to not be evil is to become “civilized” like humans or elves. I’m still mad after all these years that Thrall wasn’t made more “orcish” because he’s supposed to be nice.

Edit: I am digging his redesign, tho. Much cooler.

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That just…sounds soo bad. You must change your entire culture because the pretty elves and perfect white humans find you backwards and savage

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The High Elves still engaged in settling Quel’thalas. The Blood Elves and Nightborne still had a lot of people join the Legion. Plus taking part in the Fourth War. Being ‘civilized’ doesn’t seem to be an issue.

It’s an issue, when people demand races like the Orcs and Trolls become more “civilized” because they live in tribal societies. It just sends a really bad message

I don’t see the concern that that’s anything relevant to the story when we see ‘civilized’ races doing the same anyway. Seeing as their comment was ‘sometimes I think the only way’. Obviously it is cringe when people ask.

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