Why don’t you raid?

Been there, done that. Raided quite a few nights every week some years ago. Enjoyed it and the competition to be in the top on the server. Now I play for pure enjoyment. Do what I want when I want. Less stress and more fun.

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Do like I do and mute everyone except the raid lead. It makes it much more enjoyable.

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Tried it back in MoP. I was stressed the whole time and didn’t enjoy myself. Decided it probably wasn’t for me.

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Raids would be fine except for the people who occupy them.

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I don’t want to spend time with people I can barely tolerate just for pixels.

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Stopped raiding towards the end of WOLK, after my irl friends stopped playing this game. I will do LFR nowadays to see the story, but that’s about it. If they were to start playing again, I could probably get back into doing some progression raiding. Thought the release of classic, and TBC classic might tempt my irl friends back into playing, but nope, no interest in this game anymore.

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Lol, meme speak. It sounds to me like you’re allergic to a good time.

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I’ve never understood gearing being a motive in and of itself. I’ve always wanted gear for a further purpose: better chances in PvP, easier to clear old raids, better dps/hps, etc. the actual item level doesn’t matter to me at all.

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cause i spent the majority of my wowlife raiding and it got old.

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My theory is that some bean-counter has crunched it and determined that Raids are the most expensive content to create. Blizzard can’t outright come out and say “no more raids” because it will cause mass exodus. What they can however do is keep reducing the reasons to go into raid, so when they get their /played metrics they can present it and say “well a lot of people aren’t raiding, so we’re cutting the dev budget on that”. Eventually they’ll just replace all raid content with more M+, because it’s cheaper to make a dungeon that people will repeat for 24 months than it is a raid that lasts 3-4.

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My social battery doesn’t last enough to become good friends with the guild’s core most of the times.

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For me it’s just too many people. Starts to feel like co-workers.

I like more manageable sizes, like 2v2, 3v3, 5 man keys, and then old 10 man raiding (rip) and rbgs.

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Waiting for other people’s learning curve on raid would take very long.

Unlike on M+, I just find 4 other people of the same M score as me and we could complete several M+ dungeons with loots comparable before and now even better than raid.

My plan on Shadowlands before is for me to get gear first on M+ before doing Raid. Now, when I look at Raid loots, I realized that my M+ gear is better. So I got lazy on Raids.

In my opinion, Creation Catalyst somehow is one big reason that I didnt raid. Tier gear is suppose to be my main reason to do Raid. But since I could get Tier gear outside of Raid, I lost my will to do raid. Why do Raid if everything I need is on M+? I am not into Mythic Raiding. I could have done at least Heroic Raiding but it didnt happen.

because its stressful

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It has lost its feeling of reward.

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Honestly? Don’t care too, what free time I get from work plus the amount of effort I wanna put into playing, I would rather spend it farming pets, mounts, and transomgs instead of banging my head against a wall with randos.

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Personally, I raid a lot I mainly do pug raids but I am not really a big fan of raiding, sure I find it fun to do every once in a while but it’s annoying whenever your guilds like “Alright everyone, time to raid. If you aren’t here then you’ll be kicked off the raid team.” Like, I only see raiding for two purposes and that’s getting the 285 gear and getting AOTC other than that I don’t care for it. And when it comes to pugging heroic raids then it’s obnoxious you wait around 20+ minutes waiting on people to join then another 20 minutes for tanks, if not longer. Then you have people not knowing the mechs and it turns into a learning group. And you sit doing raids for hours and people either give up or you kill the boss and you don’t get any good loot.

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I used to raid in the past, when I had more time at hands. Raiding consumes too much time and isn’t fun anymore. Maybe DF will change this without all the chores, who knows.

I do raid, but this entire expansion makes me wish I didn’t.

I raid mythic because I love the social experience. Whether we’re strategizing, doing important call outs, joking around, or just talking about our rl days during the in-between time, that’s how I get the only social time I need throughout the week as an introvert.

I wish I didn’t raid because the time that is required to play each week for obtaining CE is insane now. Running M+ countless times every week, dailies, rep grinds, crafting grinds, torghast, currency grinds for leggos, raid prep, running every raid difficulty for tier set bonuses, running SoD for the stupid Sylvanas trinket, covenant renown grinds, etc… This is a ridiculous amount of time required compared to how much I played back in Wrath to obtain Heroic end boss kills. I don’t even want HoF, just CE. Also, as an introvert, this has turned into an overwhelming amount of social activity now causing me to feel drained every day. I’ve about had it, and want to move on to FF. I just miss the game being a more relaxed social experience like it used to be.

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I raided a lot from vanilla through to Legion and then off and on in BFA (although really only up to Legion with an organized guild). The main reason I no longer raid regularly is I just don’t like having a schedule for it, some nights I don’t feel like logging in and I don’t want to feel like I have to.

I try to pug when I can, but I just don’t have the desire for it like I used to. I still love the game and play a ridiculous number of hours a week, I just like my time being my own.