Why does nobody care that Novas don't break?

WoW Classic Wrath of the Lich King Classic Discussion
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Surely we’ve all been ice lanced 5x in an unbreakable Nova.

I know Blizzard claim that it’s been “looked at”, but it’s clearly still borked - go watch any old Mage TBC PvP videos, novas break on the first lance ~90% of the time, and I haven’t been able to find a single example yet of it lasting more than 2 lances.

e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB7bUNWTlh4

What I want to know is why nobody cares? Why isn’t anyone making noise about this?

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Couple of things that have been broken since TBC launch. Warrior mace stun talent procs too often, nova’s don’t break, and the talent that gives frost armor a chance to freeze the target has at least a 99% proc chance.

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I’m not sure there’s evidence of mace stun proccing too often, nor Frostbite proc chance - but there does seem to be clear evidence of Nova lasting through a lot more damage than it did in original TBC.

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I mean the talent is a 15% chance. Go melee a frost mage and watch it proc on every single melee attack. There’s no known damage threshold on frost nova, so we have less evidence that its more bugged than frostbite.

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Yeah its stupid, I even play the class and fully agree its super dumb, and there were multiple PVP related topics in Beta, everything from nova not breaking to bubbles (absorbs) preventing crits; all of are still in game.

Played a mage in original TBC, and if you even looked at frost nova in a bad way and did not time your shatter perfectly the nova would break. Now you can just noob it up and spam lance on nova because it almost never breaks.

This is how shatter combo’s work in REAL TBC, actually from TBC not a private servers

Level 70 TBC.

Level 80 Wrath

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yah mace stun is broken

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You answered your own question.

It’s been looked at and it’s working as intended.

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No, nothing is working properly in this version of TBC because its on this dumpy retail engine.

Actual shatter combos in REAL TBC, not private servers. Notice how fast the nova breaks? Its almost instantly; this is why timing was actually important in REAL TBC, where as now any chimp can spam a couple buttons and shatter someone to death without any effort.

Level 70 TBC

Level 80 Wrath

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Right, I’m sure you know better than the actual people that work on the game and have access to the data.

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Data does not equal function; but the game launched flawlessly… And nothing should be questioned, and we should just accept broken things how they are.

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Because it’s hilarious.

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Yeah i remember. Never played a mage but fought tons of them in BG’s. Usually I could shift out of nova before lance hit, but when it did, it broke immediately. Not saying that its not broken, but to add to it, getting ‘nova’d’ just by attacking them and it not breaking is part of it.

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i remember it proccing very often in original tbc as well. mine on my warrior does not proc that often, however. /shrug

what gets me evry time is the 10% chance to proc impact stun off fireblast

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occasionally play fire and you would not believe the number of people who get stunned on my shield… its so silly.

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No, no, no. One person’s anecdotal evidence and ignoring everything to the contrary supersedes Blizzard’s ability to look at the old client and compare.

People have been misremembering things since the day Classic launched. This has been proven again and again and again.

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Mages being broken in a way that works for them? Isn’t that standard operating procedure?

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Nah, they have been playing on more accurate private servers that were copies of the og game using the original client. The Vanilla, TBC and Wrath private servers excluding the boss stuff is actually really really close to perfect.

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Why? Because barely anyone is playing pvp seriously. TBC arena meta is such a joke that people just opt out of it entirely.

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This is true. But that’s not a good argument in general because the community has also remembered many things accurately. So at what point do you say one out weighs the other? It’s very easy to point at inconsistencies in human memory and by doing so you over look where memories are being applied accurately.

Your argument should consist of proof as to why the memory is false. If you cannot do that, then you have essentially said nothing. You’ve only created doubt without evidence or merit.

Using your logic, nothing ever referred to as a memory can be trusted and this isn’t a good approach when telling somebody they’re wrong.

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We do care

We gave up when it wasn’t fixed for the entirety of season 1 & 2.