I’m always googling or having to watch a youtube video to find some portal or transmog/barber. If it’s gonna take some time to get to some place, at least make it clear how to get there, no? Who makes a map with hardly any information on it? It’s not new player friendly whatsoever. Do I need add-ons to navigate as well?
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just play six hours a day every day for the past twenty years like me, then you’ll know where every portal, teleport npc, warp toy, and spell is located, plus have the challenge and/or m+ dungeon shortcuts.
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I find raid/dungeon entrances can be a pain to find.
They’re not always marked on the map and even googling isn’t always clear.
Two things:
In cities, talk to guards to find the things you mentioned.
Anywhere, use the eyeglass on the minimap to filter specific landmarks to make them easier to find.
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Yeah I know, that’s why I end up going to youtube more often than not to see an actual video than just a picture with some buildings and trees nearby that I have no idea about lol
Transmog/barber can be marked on your minimap and you can also ask a guard for directions.
Quests give you objectives pointing directly at whatever portals you need to take to get close to them.
Whatever else you’re looking for, I can practically guarantee there was a quest that explained it step by step at some point that you skipped past without reading.
It’s perfectly new player friendly. It just asks that new players, y’know, pay attention to what they’re playing.
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I think it would be handy for the map to be pre loaded with icons. But I’m sure there are add-ons for that.
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If you can’t figure out how to talk to a city guard and look at your map to find things in town your issue is you need your hand held for everything.
Imagine complaining about cities. And then being complicated. Here finding myself hoping the were bigger and more realistic in size heh
I’ve dreamed of then changing flight paths to portals.
It would be so much more respectful to our time.
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How would a new player know how to get to the new m+ dungeons in non dragonflight areas that don’t have portals near them?
Legacy of tyr comes to mind. The closest i can think of is to take the portal in org to the eastern kingdoms - but that wouldn’t be apparent at all to a new player because the portal you need isn’t of either of the 2 main portal rooms.
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back in the day the map was blacked out, a fraction of the flight paths, no indicator pointing you where exactly to go , just a few portals, and was done mostly by foot, so easy now days.
I don’t know, maybe take some time to explore the areas?
There is actually a portal in Valdrakken that sends you right to the badlands. It’s in the building where you turn in the titan relics. Once gain, just take some time to look around the area.
The other game I play, Wurm Unlimited, has a static map, no icons(unless the GM loads in village markers, no character indicator, just the map… WoW is a dream come true compared to that one.
When WoW incorporated their own version of QuestHelper into the game it made things much easier, but even before it was easy enough. Most quests tell you where to go, at least in general terms. As others have mentioned most things are marked out.
I do miss the days of /1 Anyone know where “ABC” is?
Exactly - not intuitive for new players.
Are you kidding me? Theres way too many portals and flight paths in this game anyways. Thats why its confusing. Portals should only be available thru mages. We could even let mages make 1 time use portals on scrolls that we could sell on the ah.
Depends. Places with a lot of 3D structure in particular are still kind of a pain, usually in the manner of unclarity of what z-coordinate you’re looking for and/or exactly where the outdoor entrance that gets there is.
Dazar’Alor says hi, lol.
I think finding generic things is fairly straightforward. The vendors, mailboxes, repairs, barber/transmog, stables, banks, auction houses, etc. General city amenities. Those are all handled by Guards and/or the Minimap Tracking options and shouldn’t be too much of a hurdle for a new player to find.
Finding an overall zone, EK/Kalimdor instance entrances and such, is also fairly straightforward, as is finding any other point of interest on those continents, given a little bit of exploring.
But I think Blizzard is absolutely ATTROCIOUS at making it clear how to get to patch zones in modern expansions. Everything is a portal (or loading screen boat) to somewhere, and the requirements for said portal (or boat path) existing seem to change over time, so you end up with guides on the front page of google that were relevant when the content was new, but are now inaccurate because Blizzard shortened the process somehow – which is great for people playing while that expansion is live who want to do the new stuff on alts faster – but creates confusion as to how to access it at all for people who come in after the fact.
Legion was a god damned mess with access to Argus.
BfA was a god damned mess with access to the opposite-faction zones via boat and Nazjatar.
Shadowlands saw constant confusion from new/returning players about what they actually had to do to unlock Zerith Mortis.
Dragonflight doesn’t seem bad so far, the patch zones have been super well-marked story campaign quests or otherwise are just available as part of the map (I mean, ZC is just a big hole in the ground you can fly into and it’s marked on the map). But we’ll see how it looks at the end.
The flight paths need to be optional portals. Then it would solve cross continent travel which is where the confusion starts.
As a veteran player, i sometimes have a hard time remembering how to get to places, particularly old content because portals can be moved/removed and different time jumps happen. I wish they had some type of portal to zone ability, like as an icon on a map, give it a 1 hour CD or something i don’t care, it would just be nice to click on a button and be in the zone I’m looking for instead of going Dal>SW>Zone portal>flight to location.
I will make one suggestion though, there’s an addon called Tome of Teleportation that puts all of your toys, portal cloaks, rings and other abilities like old CM portals into a single UI and breaks them down per expansion, has helped me a lot.