Why does gear feel so meaningless now?

I personally do not care for gear. Gear comes and goes. I focus on learning the game the best way I can. Mostly I am playing to have fun not to compare my better “epic gear” with anyone else.
BTW “casuals” pay a monthly fee, and also can play in an intense way other than raiding or mythic. So being a “casual” does not mean that time and effort is not invested and a piece of gear here and there is not a detriment to the game IMO. Just saying!

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I get an item that is 30 ilevels above what I am wearing.

I should be excited.

Instead I am using outside resources to figure out if it is even an upgrade in the first place. Then I am looking at the stats and see that it doesn’t have haste which means if it do equip it, my rotation will be slower and I will hate playing my character.

I am lost as to how the devs could think this is even remotely fun or interesting.

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Technically speaking, all the upgrades are still behind mythic raiding, but it does not feel that way. In modern WoW, all the upgrades are locked behind the luck dice.

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I’m impressed we simultaneously have this comment along with comments about how gear is so dumbed down and simple and there is no thought in how you should gear.

you don’t get to choose it. I just got another 385 helm that makes it three in bag… I don’t have time for this blizz. Why have an azerite reforger in the game? … it’s just bad loot. RNG blows.

You nailed it. I agree 100%

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I don’t understand how it’s meaningless. If you don’t have it you can’t progress. And even if you aren’t progressing through end game difficulties, it’s still useful.

It’s almost like gear might have more than one use.

I would second this idea. At least give us the option to pay the same amount people pay to respec their azerite piece, for a random roll of the dice on traits. I think that would be awesome.

all you do in wow now is chase rng ilvl then 4 months later you re chasing rng ilvl again.the gearing system is bad.then rng wq’s are copy paste from legion that you have done for over 2 years.

next bad class design with gdc is no fun and pvp normal bgs feel worthless because marks and honor mean nothing which gives me no incentive to do bgs.

in all the systems in bfa are just plain bad and need to be reworked.

Before, you could research which dungeon/raid drops gear that would benefit you and then run the instance until it dropped, giving you a satisfaction that you worked to get that piece. Stats didn’t change, so you knew what you were getting.

Now, any piece azerite piece can have a trait on them that outclasses other traits. Even if the item is 30 ilvls lower. And with the large amount of traits your gear can have, it’s almost mandatory to have something like a Ask Mr. Robot subscription just to sort through what you have and come up with your best in bags at that time.

I like choice in what to look for but this system feels sloppy and not well put together. There isn’t a BiS anymore. Just get what you can and hope for the best.

I remember running Icecrown Citadel for a heroic version of Nibelung on my priest so that I could work on a skill set that could maximize the amount of val’kyrs I could summon at one time. It was fantastic when I finally got my hands on one and loved that staff until it had to be replaced in the next xpac. I had a goal, worked at it and finally got what I wanted. It felt good.

TDLR: Obtaining gear isn’t fun like it was in earlier xpacs. My only goal is to make sure the traits my gear rolled has the traits I need to tank better. There’s no piece of gear that makes me excited to go for.

Sorry for rambling :frowning:

Gear coming from all directions, but none of it is BIS.

/rolls the dice again

gets more azerite power instead of gear

/takes a drink

You can earn gear from everything now and they even scaled tons of it up with the patch and it makes gearing really boring IMO. I miss having to actually take time to gear toons.
What’s the point of playing a MMO where you can get fully decked out in good gear in 2~ weeks.

I think a major issue that people tend to have extremely low standards on what is ‘good gear’.

No one is impressed by a toon decked out in 390 gear right now. That isn’t considered “good gear”. Its average at best.

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No one is impressed by any ilvl of gear anymore.

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You can definitely tell the difference between a 400 and a 390 ilvl person. People just think when they get all their baseline 370 m0 gear they have “good gear”. They don’t.

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Gear will matter again when the loot casino goes bye bye.

Maybe so. I don’t see what identity it had in the past that it doesn’t now though.
Titanforging doesn’t dictate what you can equip, and the “reset” doesn’t delete character progression.
It just makes it quicker to catch up for people who weren’t already there.

Going into season 2 a 390 item level like I was still put me at a significant advantage than if I was starting as a fresh 120.

Yet if you sign up for a group with 415 ilvl you will be recognized immediately.
And if you sign up for that same group with 385, you’ll be declined.

Does being “impressed” matter, when gear is still such a driving force for maximization of your character?

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It is pointless, that’s why.

This azerite gear throwing what use to be tier bonuses at you all the time just makes it less special or rare.

You’re literally also gaining nothing new gameaybe wise as you use the same bonuses from 110-120

Upgrades and transmog are never meaningless.