They dont play whack a mole with bots inneficiant if they did that the bot makers would replace the program with another of there hundreds of bot programs blizzard always bans in waves i woudlnt be surpirsed if another ban wave is coming soon and its always in hundreds of thousand account. THen the players will come here claiming of false bans sure theres some false flags but alot of them are true flags.
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Yep. If they banned bots in real time as they are detected, it makes it easier for the bot makers to update their code to avoid detection.
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That’s crazy. This has never been something that players have been told to watch out for. It shouldn’t matter if a transaction is supported or not. It should only matter if something is against the TOS or not. If people are getting banned for things that aren’t against the TOS, then that is something Blizzard needs to fix, not the players.
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And to give you an even larger scope to look at-- in December alone, two months ago, they banned nearly 300k accounts due to exploitative activity. Don’t believe it was specifically SoD, but SoD is not the only client where they’re contending with this.
271k in December, 197k in November, 203k in October.
The last three months of 2023, nearly three-quarters of ONE MILLION accounts banned.
People don’t seem to grasp the scope of this empire that Blizzard has been fighting since the beginning back in 2004, whether they are engaging willingly or otherwise.
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Good lord this is still going on ?
Look here are the fact’s at the end the the day it the players job to educate themselves on the do’s and don’ts of the game. If you’re unsure of something you simply ask your fellow players as opposed to blindly doing it and then balking about getting actioned.
It’s blizzards sandbox their rules and they will do with it what they please if you don’t like how they run their game there is nothing preventing you from voting with your wallet and subbing to another game of your choice that might have more laxed rules.
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I understand where you are coming from, and I don’t want this to get too far off the rails here but it’s hard to feel bad for a multi-billion dollar company that continues to lay off CS people.
Obviously what they are doing is not working. The bots are still profitable which is why it’s still an issue and it will always be an issue until Blizzard figures out how to make it unprofitable to bot. Blizzard has the resources to fix this problem if they wanted to, it just would not look good to the shareholders so it’s very unlikely.
But back to my original point that players who don’t break the TOS should not be banned. Simple as that.
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Receiving illicitly sourced gold is and has always been against the TOS. Doesn’t matter if it happening knowingly or unwittingly. That’s the risk.
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Um, please don’t bring that garbage here, the CS department hasn’t been laid off.
Why can’t people just earn the gold the old fashioned way, instead of trying to cheese the system.
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As has been pointed out, taking any action that results in you receiving illicit gold is against the ToS, and has been for quite some time. It does not matter if you knew the gold you got was illicit or not, so there’s no he-said-she-said on whether or not you knew.
Because players continue to buy from them. If players stop buying, people will stop selling. But as long as there are enough people willing to buy, someone will go to great lengths to find a way to sell.
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Where are you seeing this exactly? This is the only paragraph that would apply and it says nothing about receiving illicit gold unknowingly. It actually only mentions selling in game items/currency, not even buying them.
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I think it’s time to be brutally honest here. The people being suspended are not being suspended for selling an item/service in-game as normal. They are dancing on the edge, trying to end around Blizzard’s policies, consorting with these people in Discord to keep it out of Blizzard’s eye. Even this thread started with someone saying “I have evidence it wasn’t RMT”, which is rather strange for someone who claims they didn’t know anything about this. They are in a Discord where players plot together, thinking they will be safe from repercussions.
It’s much like the people who buy bots, get banned, and then the botmaker tells them to appeal it with Reason X, because they “guarantee” it works. Blizzard isn’t stupid. They see what’s happening, they investigate VERY thoroughly, including in ways players never consider.
If you feel the need to never trade with anyone in-game, sell an item on the AH, that’s your choice. And you know what? You will be safe from any RMT account actions, so mission accomplished. Continuing these strawman arguments is not making any kind of salient point, other than getting this thread locked.
Blizzard is intentionally vague to keep players from saying “ah ah, you didn’t explicitly say I couldn’t do this”. If you want to suggest that they lay out everything explicitly, then feel free to make that suggestion in the General Forum, or by utilizing the in-game Suggestion feature.
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Yep, makes it very easy to claim ignorance if caught - even though as we’ve all seen recently, that ignorance is no defence - especially if the logs reveal it occurring on more than once, and with whom (this is where those trying to be sneaky end up tripping up). Blizzards in-game logs are extensive, detailed, and Blizzard is very good at detecting patterns of behavior.
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You said you’d known them for a whole month before the trade was executed. So no, you didn’t know them.
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At this point these types of trades are not safe! Not with gold sellers praying on you.
early in the morning. I was play online about 30 minutes then gone to work till over 9 hours got home. it show ban me when I log in. WTF? I sent the ticket to Blizz. I am still don’t understand what the GM saying. they didn’t tell me I been my ACC. hack or other thing. I know I doing nothing wrong. they don’t say to change Acc. or Battler tag or Pass-words. I am still don’t get it.
anyone tell me what is [ violation exploitative activity: Real Money Transaction] is?
Related to real money trade for in-game stuff, like paying X amount of real world money for Y amount of in-game gold.
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WHAT??
I was bought from Blizzard own coins last year. Blizzard selling own coin. I hate play a their game is. I feel like they play for blame.
What allocation of what resources would make botting disappear?
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Easy, as SoD isn’t your normal vanilla game, Blizzard could always add the token.