nobody cares if professions make money selling services to other players, if mages sell ports and water, if hunters/locks sell mara runs or DM loot. but the second a tank advertises he’s lfw, someone is always bound to freak out and get angry. why?
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Who’s complaining? I didn’t see anyone complaining.
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Because there’s always something to complain about. If a group doesn’t fit your interests, find another.
I also scoff at the idea of paying to be run through DM. I still respect those trying to make gold by their own means.
not everyone obviously but i’ve seen a few threads about it recently and it’s always such a divisive thing when it shouldn’t be.
Because some people don’t understand capitalism and just cry if someone else is making money.
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Because you already get loot from dungeons, so people that are actually smart and don’t take crap deals /ignore your constant spam in trade, lfg, and world chat.
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Obviously those tanks aren’t interested in any loot. You can ignore spam without being “butt hurt”.
I also disagree that it’s a crap deal. If you see it as a crap deal it obviously isn’t for you. It’s not for me either.
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Does not compute.
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It’s not just a crap deal for non tanks. Because only a small amount of people will actually take up this offer, tanks are being inefficient in a “time is money” way.
Same logic with the mage groups leveling and wiping constantly. It’s fun.
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Because they want you to tank for free, even if you don’t need anything from the dungeon, even if your death would be the first and always the most expensive in the gear, because they’re too lazy to tank themselves and they can’t find one.
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Only the dozens of people in the dozens of threads about this. People don’t seem to get it though, they aren’t really paying a tank to tank they are paying a tank to save themselves time. I got no problem with it.
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The issue is when tanks feel entitled to get paid for doing their group role that they would have normally performed anyway.
If you’re only there because you got hired, awesome, no problems.
If you’re there for items or quests (that is, you still need the instance yourself for some reason), and you also demand to be paid, then **** off.
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If you are struggling to find a tank, it’s a fair alternative.
Do you see public transport as a bad deal because you own a car? It just doesn’t match your needs.
You can sell your services as a tank all you like, that’s your choice. It doesn’t bother me any. But I also won’t pay for someone to tank a dungeon that is their level as well and is benefiting them like it is the rest of the group. A dungeon is a team effort and benefits everyone, no matter if it’s to get gear, xp from doing the dungeon itself or xp from quests, etc.
I can understand a high level player selling their services to run people through a dungeon just for the sake of doing it to benefit the player paying. While I won’t ever pay for that either, that scenario makes much more sense to me personally.
But if you are wanting to sell your tanking services to run a dungeon and you are in the same level range as the rest of the group, it’s a team effort. I have actually had some successful dungeon runs without a tank. I’m not against running without a tank at all.
But if you want to sell your services, go for it.
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I’d be very surprised to see someone below 60 selling tanking services. Obviously that isn’t a fair deal.
From my understanding, these are players who no longer need these dungeons so they need an incentive to join you.
I can guarantee that a warrior would make far more gold doing DM jump runs with myself than trying to sell tanking services. Be careful you don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
there’s a pretty astronomical difference between fresh level 60s in greens and geared level 60s in bis/raid gear
So you make yet another about it instead of reading some responses from them? 
It depends. Tanks are not created equal, in classic any difference in skill is extremely easy to notice with tanks. If the tank can’t tank multiple adds or even two adds, can’t pull well or los well…Does the group get a refund for any of that or even a partial one?
How about wipes from a bad tank pulling a group when the healer is oom. Tanks expecting payment better be really good at it and should get the gold at the end of the run. A rogue can tank better than a bad tank and they are all LFG let’s put it that way.
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While I never express it, I feel a certain sense of utter disgust when I get the reply, “I get all non upgrade gears and all the orbs. There is no other way for me to get money.”
This means that if other don’t get the gears they need, all other team members only get trash loot to sell.
And oh the times I’ve paid for tanks and they continuously complain or flat out leave mid run and ignore.
I politely reply a no and get ignored. And then I feel even more repugnant at the state of entitlement and at myself for being nice. And that I didn’t say anything smug, it’s a free country after all. And I too am entitled.
Just make sure you put your expectations for the tank upfront, and of course expect the price to be adjusted the more you ask for.