variety of end game content for all types of players, from clickers to top skilled players.
you can find groups at your skill level at any time.
graphic is way more better.
What does era classic have ? Don’t tell me leveling and world travelling experience when a half of leveling population is sitting in mage boost camps, and the other half typically can’t afford boosts and struggle find dungeon groups from lvl 30+, in addition to everyone buying summons and world buffs.
There are definitely some fun things about Retail. I just got my KSM mount. I might try to push higher keys, tanking on druid. The events are pretty decent. Delves are pretty chill… profession stuff is OK, and once you get used to dragon flying, I don’t think it feels very good not having it, but Classic has a nice slow pace, and the content, especially now, is very user-driven.
Heck, even in Cata Classic, some of the best gaming I’ve experienced is completely because of faction disparity and user driven community.
I could just be very out of the loop and not know how people form community or meet others in Retail, but it all feels very automated to me, to the extent that it sort of feels like a single player game.
I think that while there’s something to be said about skill-based matchmaking, I remember reading something in a pesto recipe about how a food processor will give you that store-bought consistency, but grandma’s mezzaluna cut basil will have a variety of shapes and sizes in the cuts that gives it a graininess, textures and ultimately flavors that just taste like home.
Main complaints about retail are primarily the direction of the story of having the player character being “tHe ChaMPioN hERo oF AzeROTh” vs being just another dude in the world.
Also lack of socialization in retail sucks, feels more like a single player game last time I played couple months ago.
I know you’re posting this because of all the rising fresh classic info, and I know you hate vanilla wow and play sod, but there is nothing you can do to stop it
Generally you assume far too much. We are quite a lot that play Era exactly because of the levelling. Maybe you should try visitinge the PvE servers or HC?
Era has professions that matter, freedom of choice, slow, relaxed pace that leaves everything up to you.
Era in short has freedom!
Is this an asset? FOMO and being left behind. We love the slow pace of Era, and that our achenvements never get obsolete.
Much more fun and freedom in Era.
Era concentrate on the game, not chasing pokemon.
Try the PvE or HC, And no, PvP in Retail is not fair either.
Nope, you get flamed for the least mistake - in Era we go slow and learn together.
Same as in Era.
No! I’d never learn to stand those snub-nosed imbecile looking Retail disney figures. ANd the inconsistency when going into old zones is gruelling.
I just started my first era character a few days ago. My first experience with wow was WOTLK back in the day, and even back then I heard people talk about how vanilla was a different beast.
I never got to experience that, so the next best thing is classic. I’m level 16 on my warrior, and holy moly is it a different leveling experience, lol. I find the challenge, slower pacing, etc. appealing. Retail feels like you mash whatever buttons you want, then packs die. In era I have to think about how I’m going to approach fights, whether or not I want to get other people involved, and so on. It’s nice, and I’ve yet to even get a blue drop yet. THE GEARING ALSO FEELS SO MUCH BETTER! I got a random green drop mace from a trash mob yesterday, and it was such a noticeable upgrade.
In short, Classic makes every decision and action feel more meaningful to me as a player that repeatedly finds himself disenchanted with retail.
Exactly, in Era - especially pvp and higher levels of pve - every little action and positioning is extremely important - and the slightest mistake can spiral into a negative outcome.
I’ve yet to see anyone that is actually good complain that it is too easy. All the people who complain about rotations being too simple, tend to also be mid tier players at best.
It isn’t hard to finish raids or show up in pvp, but the skill band is quite wide and the people at the top are there because they are executing well.
This is something that is basically lost at tbc imo (they removed half the buttons in pvp by blocking consumes / eng in arena). Retail is designed to make average players feel heroic, whereas vanilla puts players in their place real fast.
I exclusively M+ when I play and have absolutely zero interest in anything else excluding the occasional heroic raid.
Makes the world feel boring. Pve servers existed. War mode should have never replaced PvP servers. If you don’t want to be “griefed” (by consensually agreeing to play on a PvP server of your own volition) then just play on a pve server.
Only care about M+, and even then, if I’m not pushing the key, I don’t care. Miss me with the +7 randoms who click and keyboard turn.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sure I guess.
Is it though? Technically sure but it looks too bright for me. It feels weird. Adding to the weird part, the dialogue feels way too quirked up for me. It’s like listening to furry RPers on twitter except it’s alexstraza and some random nobody dragon that I sure don’t care about.
Are you asking why we play classic or why we don’t play retail?
Long term, I enjoy my time in classic, I don’t enjoy my time in retail. In retail, you get rushed to “the end”, and then all that’s left to do is sweat or farm collectibles, and neither of those things really appeal to me currently. It’s kind of fun to see the new expansions and zones and all that, but they generally don’t have lasting appeal to me.
The vibes are completely off and there’s no immersion for me in retail. I just want to be a little guy exploring a big world. I don’t want to be some cosmic champion of life and death. I really like how each character is their own character, ie there is no account-bound stuff or heirlooms or 600 mounts and pets you can just pull out of your pocket.
I’ve never bought a single boost, summon, world buff, or anything like that.
Get this, I just like to play the game, and classic is a far better experience to me for just playing the game. Right now I’m actually on my own era quest on a fresh toon to help all of the peoples of Azeroth, meaning I’m going to do every quest that I possibly can. Simply put, I think about doing that and I want to log in. I think about anything in WWI and it just makes me want to free up some of that space on my SSD.
This is the opinion of the uneducated who only see “Raid / M+” “Role” based cast systems and fully ignore the broad scope of an RPG.
To answer your first question about why Era?
Because it offers the most fun PVP you can have next to MoP arena / RBG’s, and the best overall Class balance next to MoP, but with a twist, the class balance is geared toward Leveling, Dungeons, and PVP rather than Raid / Arena.
For me, this is the Apex of “Fun” in respect to PVP because it has so much more depth than any other version. You may think looking from the outside and uneducated perspective that the classes are more basic with less abilities, and this is true on the surface, but once you really start to know the nuance of play and include consumes and Eng items the game is incredibly deep.
there is literally no community in retail. I run through the main city and dont recognize or remember any single person because it doesn’t matter. That in itself is a huge one for classic players. The journey through leveling, slow but steady gear progression, none of this instant gratification retail has.
With classic I am not compelled to do weeklychores, to get currency or gear, that is made worthless once the next patch hits. I can just log into classic and pvp. Yeah, I had to acquire gear for my characters, but it will not need to be replaced.
While class balance favors a few classes in pvp or pve, at least the constant over buffs and over nerfs are stuck in retail
When retail stops releasing content that feels like it hasn’t been touched by a test group, then fixing it over the course of 60-90 days only to then break it again 4-6 months later in the next content patch, then I would maybe consider trying it again.
Since they don’t though, I will play the version of the game that I know works. Mostly. Until SoD gets an update and they break something I guess.
Also, retail is a very different game than Classic. Retail does short cycle content really well. You go do a dungeon for 30 minutes and you’re done. You go do some world quests for the day and then you’re done. You go do all your loot pinata tasks for the day and then you’re done. If you miss a day, then you’re behind. It’s a theme park.
Classic is a sandbox. You tried to dismiss it but it actually is a meaningful world to alot of people. A lot of folks play Classic and don’t value that, but it doesn’t mean this is true for all of us.
