there are people that only seem to care about AV, personally i never liked any version all that much. originally it took way too long. an hour or two would have been fine, but the potential to last for days was crazy
tbc was mindless aoe spam for the most part, and after that it was just a goofy race
1.12 is a lot of fun and a fair compromise.
As someone who mained a hunter in vanilla from launch, the journey from 1.0 to 1.12 was one of the best times of my life. Snarler was a pet with 100 resistances we could camp out and tame, Maraudon was released as you leveled, then we got pet talents, the early 10-man scholo/strat and 15-man ubrs were all a blast, pre-Thorium Point was a blast using the Searing Gorge key from Loch Modan. There were a lot of cool things that I wish people could sequentially experience.
Having said that, certain classes like Druids had a miserable time before 1.12. 1.12 is better for sure if it’s done intelligently, like 1.5 AV for example with progressive patches and itemization would be perfectly fine.
Eh? Balance aka one-shot-machine-of-death in PvP or Resto healer? Or maybe feral aka fastest-levelling-spec-in-game.
I can’t stop from wondering where are you people even getting all of this nonsense?
Well no, actually, Classic is something that never existed, by choice. If Blizzard did any basic source control management while developing WoW (which admittedly is an assumption) they could recreate any patch of vanilla bit for bit by checking out the source tree and building it. This is what they have done with 1.12 for internal testing and comparison purposes to develop Classic.
Now Blizzard has chosen, for a variety of good reasons, to build Classic using the current game client-server architecture. To re-implement 12 patches of vanilla releases would be an unreasonably big job given that decision, so they have picked the last state of vanilla to do.
Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/7e3cjk/if_youre_asking_for_11_please_make_sure_you_know/
druids were useless outside of resto
Useless for what? Raiding? Yes. Leveling\solo play and PvP is a completely different story. Dungeon tanking was alright as well. The common issue with these discussion is that they focus only on raiding.
And again. Vanilla is not the infamous “bring the player, not the class” and not even “bring the class”, it’s “bring the spec suitable for the activity”.
Your lack of ironic self awareness is comical.
Lack of CRBGs would lead you to not play the game, but people who “only seem to care” about AV are something you apparently take issue with.
I respect your opinion, but I honestly hope your type choose not to play.
Apparently maining a hunter gives you perspective of other classes.
Not sure what you mean.
My experience as a hunter was cited as my personal preference of starting from 1.0.
My conceding to 1.12 was a result of weighing the other sides of the argument, of which I provided a relevant link.
In the previous case I assume we agree, and in the latter case a source is cited. Even if you don’t agree with their argument it is still valid and thoroughly tested through the private server community.
I too did not main a druid, but the time I did put into playing one it was anything but a “miserable time”. In fact it was pretty damned fun.
Here’s a few words from the Blizzcon panels:
“Feel just like 2006.”
“2006.”
“Avoid messing with the 1.12 data.”
“Almost sacrosanct.”
“That’s everything from ya know, the world and the questlines and the stories, to individual player abilities, creature health, tuning and so forth.”
OK now do all of those in complete context and not your cherrypicked soundbytes.
You’re a joke. If he said they want to avoid messing with the 1.12 data, that means they don’t want to mess with the 1.12 data. It doesn’t mean “oh he’s talking about non-Vanilla data, it doesn’t apply to other patches’ data from Vanilla!”
Like you’re trying to imply.
Careful to keep perspective though; even those who want “easy mode” Classic are still sick of retail. Both sides of #NoChanges are in the same camp, just the easy mode side is thankfully downwind.
I am implying nothing. What I am saying is that you should post the COMPLETE context of what you’ve chosen to soundbyte.
First of all, that was a long rant.
Second, #nochanges is about modifications outside of vanilla, NOT a particular patch.
It’s the most complete ![:smirk:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smirk.png?v=6" ":smirk:")
I want the original Alterac Valley. That’s why.
I never said it wasn’t, did I?
They said that’s what they are working from, so until they say otherwise I’d say it’s safe to assume it’s going to be, at least in a majority, 1.12.
Keep moving those goal posts.
They’ve also said that they do not want to mess with the 1.12 data.
Much like with people who claim “but Blizzard didn’t explicitly say no to my personal change I want”, Blizzard shouldn’t need to list absolutely every single little thing they’re not going to do.
Common sense says that Classic will be 1.12 WoW based on what Blizzard has said. I’ve posted a lot in the past about some things I don’t like about it, especially surrounding Prot Warrior threat, but it is what it is.