Brf shadow was the best raiding experience I’ve ever had holistically.
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It feels clunky to use, given that it has a cast time, and it’s annoying that it turns into Void Bult (since the keys I use for binding buffs are different than the keys I use to bind attacks).
Yeah Void Eruption doesn’t feel good switching to Void Bolt anymore, having it on a CD and not casting it all the time makes transitioning it to an active instant cast for a few globals feel clunky AF. I think they should maybe turn Mind Blast into Void Bolt with 2 charges instead and buff the dmg a bit to compensate. So voidform would empower your Mind Blast to be instant cast, deal more dmg, and add a few seconds to dots.
Because any use of Voidform capitulates to the Dev team. I don’t want them to think that what they did to classes in Legion is something to be proud of - it’s embarrassing.
I’ve thrown Void Eruption off my bar.
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I hate voidform because it doesn’t feel like shadow spec and what a should spec should be. Also Voidform, ironically, overshadows shadowform; it makes shadowform feel pointless. Back in t he days, it meant something to use shadowform itself.
Voidform right now feels like two specs into one. it should just be its own thing, a fourth spec. I feel like trying to balance this second spec into t he original one will always cause balance issues and be the downfall of the spec itself.
Voidform overpowers old shadow spec’s kit and abilities. It completely moves you away from the combat style and fantasy because of voidform.
I played classic and private servers recently to get a feel of it again. And boy its a whole different class and experience when you go back to Wrath’s level of shadowpriest. I actually felt like “shadow spec”
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There will be more systems in SL. Also “ LeGeNdArIeS”
I resonated better with voidform over what is on beta, DP spender is a FAR cry from what Wrath was. The voidform version at least held the constant of not having builder/spender or being CD oriented; not to mention was just about having consistent gcds/gameplay.
Depends on someone’s own perception of things- but for me the builder/spender completely destroys it for me, and why I choose a priest to start with back in Wrath…I was a fan of Legion shadow personally; I felt it was the most fun I’ve ever had in any video game ever and crushed that Legacy talent fails to preserve that gameplay.
Thematically, yes the Legion rework added void to the theme and that didn’t resonate with some people- but that’s still part of the spec on beta.
I really wish they just did sub-specs instead of covenants; players would have been way more invested in choosing a path…and could have solved the shadow priest issue easily.
I agree.
I wish they just focus on the classes themselves. Even a whole expansion where classes unlock a new power " fourth/ new spec"
This way we can have void as one spec and shadow as another etc.
same goes for like Old surv hunters vs this new one. or maybe Darkranger like everyone has been asking.
I just don’t feel like this version of shadow is gonna work out fully. It feels like two specs in one, two flavors. And its ether gonna be too strong or too weak =/.
As of for me. I’m already moving on after the recent change with the mastery. And the way it plays feels like a malefic rupture warlock to me. This is mostly due to 30% dmg already beging forced into voidform – forcing me to get driven to madness and proc voidform as much as possible for full dmg potential in pvp. Dot everyone, void form – priest.
Dot everyone lock, Malefic rupture – warlock.
So uncreative
I am currently looking for a new caster to go into. Testing out ele sham, balance druid, aff lock mage last lol.
So far im going with lock, just don’t like how dmg from dots are being moved away to one spell, but w.e…
This just baffles me, you’ve either completely misunderstood the mastery or just want a carbon copy of wrath and nothing else.
i didn’t misunderstood it?
And no, i just don’t enjoy voidform in general. I made that clear already lol. At least not in this form. It needs to be its own spec before i can say its a good design… Not try to overshadow shadowform…
Actually the new Mastery is quite interesting since it encourages us to max out our Dark Thoughts procs and dump them all during a “unholy trinity” period when all three dots are up, instead of just spamming them as they proc.
And your concerns about pvp are irrelevant; screw pvp. If you’re playing wow primarily for pvp you’re not only playing one of the worst games for it, but playing one of the historically worst classes and spec. Sorry, not sorry.
The changes Blizz has made to shadow addressed the concerns the MAJORITY of the community had. The minority, no matter how vocal, can quit or go play a baby mode class like DK or DH.
We’re actually going to be sought after for Mythic+ now, especially with how good our aoe is, considering the nerfs in the form of target caps applied to most other classes.
I would like this a lot if it were even currently possible to achieve. Six seconds on the proc is not enough time to risk banking up to five stacks. It’s barely worth risking banking two.
your comment is the problem why this game is in its current state.
The best part you is that don’t hear pvp players saying anything about pve players.
Its an MMORPG - i can play whatever i want, its my fantasy experience first of all.
Second WoW is actually one of the best MMORPGS for pvp. Its only gone down the drain thanks to players with similar attitude likes yours attacking our gearing system heavily because you are too lazy to grind for our gear, and qq when the end is on the other foot.
They can balance your pve aspect of the game and keep it apart form the pvp aspect. They have full control of this, they are more than capable… Your Pve experience is unfazed by pvp players so stop trying to ruin other player’s gaming experience.
PS: SP has had strong periods in the pvp side. so yeah…
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You won’t get a spec with no cooldowns, and tbf from testing voidform is one of the weakest CDs in the game, beaten only by shadowfiend, fire ele totem, and probably tied with icy veins.
If your worry is that the existence of a cd will tank shadows sustain damage, then I understand the concern, especially in a game where so many specs are like that, but right now shadow is not. Even the mastery interaction isn’t technically any more damage to your main target than the three dots you should already have applied.
You can’t bank them anyway really because doing so leaves blast off cd. Once they fix the DT bug you’ll have a little bit of leeway to make sure you can always use them during a flay, but really they feel more designed to be used quickly and the stack thing is more overflow protection on aoe with sear.
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Cd is irrelevant to me, not my issue.
I just do not like the idea of voidform in our shadowspec, at least not in this current design. A 4th spec would be better for it…
And in a pvp setting you wont be able to get full dots on everyone to maximize the dmg period. Especially when everyone is ontop of to u ccing you down hard. This also slows down your insanity generation.
Which is why this voidform, mastery, and driven to madness combo does sooo much. It will be off cd a lot cuze maddness talent, and you will be in voidform most of the time and spreading dps easier while getting 30 percent bonus dmg from a dot. It just does way more overall.
I am just very concerned over something that is obviously doing too much atm that will cause heavy nerfs. I dont want another bfa. Voidform just adds too much power spike potential.
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I don’t necessarily want voidform gone, but I would like to be balanced not so much around having it as it stands in BFA and borrowed power (see below). Its current iteration in SL I think is a great step in the right direction as it has really always been more of a dps cooldown. I mean we are still built around using it, but so are other classes and their cooldowns, so I am kind of more meh about it,
The real issues To me right now are bugs in certain new abilities, so much damage being tied to DP (would rather it do less and have the damage spread more through out the spec), certain spell functions (looking at stuff like DP again in wasting damage recast on same target that already has DP up), and the same issue every class has right now with covenants and conduits. Get these fixed and then we can look at voidform again later if people are adamant about it.
Borrowed power is of course a big issue. Shouldn’t be another BFA. Shouldn’t have to go with X covenant or Y conduit because it is more powerful. Should be able to go with B covenant and Z conduit because I find it fun even if It is considered 1% behind X covenant and Y conduit. Furthermore, shouldn’t have to pick these up to be more powerful in the first place. Should be picking them because they make my rotation more fun. Pipe dream yes, but really should be how it works.
Keep Power Infusion (make it self-only for Shadow), remove Voidform except via Legacy of the Void.
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i take the boss doing anything to my shadow priest so personal.
like ive never screamed this much in a long time…
" WHY AM I GETTING STUNNED EVERYTIME I POP VOID FORM!?!? "
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Basically I agree with you, like just leave that path there for only those who used to like original voidform.
But for better respect on both sides, really wish they made it a fourth spec…
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