I have run a few heroic dungeons on my blood dk tank and once was kicked for not skipping mobs. I got kicked and iI got the deserter buff. I could understand if i left…but i was kicked.
The system working as intended.
Being kicked, leaving early, etc all valid reasons to receive the debuff.
The deserter’s mark gives you some time to fix your problems. Rotations, gear or general play. If you feel you have been kicked unfairly welcome to the club. They won’t change it…
There is nothing wrong with my tanking other than i refuse to spend 3 mins trying to dodge 1 one minute fight…it actually takes more time to skip (the one to the first boss in lost city)
the system can’t determine whether you were kicked at no fault of your own, or if you were being a troll and/or a terrible teammate so it gives everyone the deserter debuff.
otherwise we will go back to people holding groups hostage (usually tanks and healers) because they got a dungeon they didn’t like so they force the group to kick them to get another instant queue
If you get kicked or leave within the 1st 15 mins you get a 30 min debuff. This is also why if i get a VC or SFK run ill stay for 15mins then leave. and reque its better then getting a 30min debuff
100% agree I absolutely hate skipping packs in any dungeons, this skip speedrun meta is one of the worst thing about this game and in many cases especially in Deadmine with people jumping on the wheel it sometime cause wipes.
If each packs were a fight for our lives and took 5 minutes then sure but its not the case they die in 10-30 seconds it make no sense to even bother to skip.
Perhaps they could make a “was kicked” debuff, so people could differentiate.
It wasn’t always that way… but then the troll was if you didn’t want to do the 5 man you were in you just sat there and didn’t do anything until people kicked you out. People will always find a way to make things worse if you leave them enough rope to do it.
Next time start the kick on the person who first speaks up…
So people don’t troll their groups and/or intentionally get kicked when they don’t like the dungeon.
it’s so they dont take groups hostage.
so they don’t get into another group
system works fine , be better next time
Or be smart and take them hostage for 15 mins take your time clearing the packs then leave when the timer is up and reque pretty simple
It’s incentive to get good.
I’m just not seeing this ‘rampant’ vote kick phenomena
I’ve been tanking a lot of heroics the past month or so and only seen kicks for DC > 2 minutes. And people usually ask for consensus before initiating a vote kick. I quickly joined the ‘boss skip crowd’ as valor / chaos orbs, not boss drops, is what I’m after.
I’m cool if someone wants a boss, those JPs can go for BOE boots to gear my scrub alts or maelstrom crystals once I’ve booted everyone up.
Most people leave instead of vote kick, like heals left after a lock’s pet pathed thru some trash twice while we were skipping last nite in BrC (the ramp, then the ledge before corla).
So we know why OP (and the myriad of other thread starters complaining) is getting repeatedly kicked for not getting with the rdf program. Has anyone seen a lot of vote kicking OTHERS? I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS.
I dont need Valor,Frags only need Orbs. So skip runs are all i do. Plus knowbody wants to sit in a full H+ HoO run its not worth the time.
Lol blame the victim…classic
you realize that this is just a game right ?