“OH SO JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE SPAGHETTI COULD BE BETTER YOU ARE TELLING ME NOT TO EAT IT YOU ARE SO TOXIC”.
It’s a bad analogy, but it’s a perfect example of what I was saying regards the zealous (and rude) Classic fans.
I was a chef for 20 years. Rule #1 is that all people experience your food differently. Rule #2 is that they are all correct. Whether or not you “like” the spaghetti is 100% subjective. And so is your opinion on WoW.
You are searching for an objectivity that does not exist.
Feel free to offer your OPINION, but when you start claiming your opinions are factually demonstrable you are in error. People like what they like and dislike what they dislike.
Then you follow up your erroneous opinion with ALL CAPS NERD RAGE… no bro, you’re a Retail Hater. Don’t be a Hater and you’ll find more love for Classic.
Yeah it is, and it isn’t a bad analogy. You consider this a bad analogy because some people may hate a recipe and some may love it? That seems like a perfect analogy to vanilla to me! Whether or not I like something about it or not doesn’t mean it needs to be changed. Keep the recipe the same as much as you can. Keep vanilla the same as much as you can.
It does exist. Like I said it doesn’t matter if I like or dislike the honor system. Personally I don’t. Does that mean it should change because of my opinion? No. It should stay the same. period.
I am not posting my opinions, I am posting what it 100% should attempt to replicate. I love playing shadow priest. My opinion would be that I would love if they were top tierish dps so I wouldn’t be limited in my groups. My opinion though doesn’t matter because classic is built around keeping it as close to vanilla as possible. These aren’t my words, these are blizzards that is not an opinion this is fact. So they need to keep shadow priests as close to what they were and my opinion about them doesn’t matter, nor does yours.
It just depends on what you mean by retail hater. Do I hate retail in terms of gameplay and how much I like it? Yeah I do because I think it’s terrible. Do I hate retailers alltogether? Of course not. Do I hate when people come in here demanding for xmog, LFG, wow tokens, class balance, permanent sharding, new pvp systems, smaller raids, shop mounts, and other retail systems? Yeah…yeah I do and it needs to stop.
I’ve always hated being told that my fondness for vanilla is just “rose tinted glasses”. I mean I’ve spent more time on private servers over the last decade than retail but ya, those rose tinted glasses.
Yeah it is, and it isn’t a bad analogy. You consider this a bad analogy because some people may hate a recipe and some may love it? That seems like a perfect analogy to vanilla to me!
Nope, you missed my point. You don’t seem to understand the difference between subjective/objective or why your analogy actually strengthens my original post.
If you want to take some time and figure some stuff out we can revisit but I’m not going to debate with someone who cannot grasp the terms in use.
I know the difference and I even elaborated on what is/isn’t subjective, seems like you didn’t read what I said.
I actually went back and walked you through what YOU said about my analogy and how it fits perfectly. If you would like to try and reiterate what you mean feel free to because the reason you said it didn’t fit/makes no sense.
And how exactly does it strengthen your first post? I specifically said that this is directed at people who bash classic and people who says it needs to be changed and it does not need to be directed at people who just come in here asking questions. So if anything what I am saying destroyed your first statement because I specifically said being short to people from retail for no reason is not okay. Please read. Thanks.
I have yet to see this notion espoused by more than a handful of people, and all posts claiming it will happen have the hallmarks of trolling or minor bits of actual hysteria.
This is a common assumption from people I like to call the “revivalists”(classic supporters, but saying so in a way that suggests the two games can coexist).
Assuming that someone dislikes any piece of classic, regardless of size or impact, means that they celebrate every change ever made since 2.0 dropped is counterproductive and, more importantly, kind of repulsive. BFA is…honestly pretty bland and bad. The fact that I wish class balance would allow Ret Paladins to take up swords against the old gods, and not get loathed for it by their “allies” or be considered a burden, doesn’t make me like BFA more.
It’s only polarizing if you go searching for a fight(rather ironically, just like the faction war). I haven’t looked at the GD, story, or class forums since Blizzcon. It’s not really my game anymore and for anyone who enjoys it, I won’t begrudge them that.
I wish I needed to look outside the Classic forum to see people post that Classic should not exist, or should either benefit Modern in some way (the recurring “transmog” threads) or not exist.
It honestly doesn’t bother me. To each their own. People like what they like. The people that don’t like us, probably aren’t going to play anyway, so why care?
You know whats funny? I bet the majority of them do at least play a little bit. WoW players are notorious for coming back to try ‘new’ things when blizzard releases it. Can’t say I’m not guilty of buying every expansion even though I really stopped ‘loving’ the game after WotLK.
Classic is not Casual Player friendly. Retail does.
If they could make Classic Casual Friendly like Legion/BFA, then Classic would be a threat to Retail. Put Dungeon Finder to it, apply WoW tokens and I may come back to it.
BTW, I was a hardcore Vanilla player who leveled a very popular Warrior who mastered the art of stance dancing, pioneer of speed run on Stratholme, a Lt Commander in PvP and with the guild who killed 6 bosses of Naxx40. But I am casual now.
45 min Stratholme run… the first Mythic + speed run of that time. There is only 1 tank then… the warrior. The warrior has to use 2H sword on tanking then switch to shield/sword when overwhelmed. We started the chain pulling in there to reach before 45 min to Baron Rivendare. It’s part of Tier 0.5 gear quest. My warrior was the 1st warrior on our Alliance to complete the set… freaking Horde got it first coz I brought another Warrior on UBRS who doesn’t know how to DPS and we failed on my first attempt. I brought a DPS warrior who can tank the next day and we beat that sucke r boss.
The “people are upset about Classic” idea is a canard. The Classic WoW announcement is the most upvoted post ever on the WoW subreddit. Most content creators and their fans are excited about it. There are only a few salty outliers that you may see on the official forums, some of which are simply trolling to get a reaction from people.
The % of global WoW fans that are actually upset about Classic WoW is likely infinitesimally small.
I think it’s less about the threat to Retail’s existence, and more about a threat to Retail’s image as the best version of the game. Some people invest themselves into the game so completely that any criticism or insults directed toward the game are taken as if they were directed at them personally. If Classic does well, it would seem to validate those who claimed that Retail is the worst version of WoW, and Retailers simply can’t handle that.
And you don’t see this presented as a reason because few people are self-conscious enough to realize this is the truth. Amongst those who do realize, few would admit it because it reveals an insecurity that makes them appear weak.