Reading through this it more seems a vocal minority of Classic players are in a hurry to be a victim and elitist at the same time.
Classic Wow was popular because it was easier and more accessible that the competition, QOL changes were just Blizz implementing popular addons into the code. There are better players than others, of course but from MMO standards it’s just arguing who is the tallest dwarf. Have fun and let others enjoy what they want as well.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t prefer one over the other or not be content playing both. Just leave the elitist crap at the door. One might find a few new players you could enjoy playing with when one stops acting like a rabid vegan that’s superior and holier in philosophy and wholly victimized by someone that finds them annoying.
Anyways TL:DR- BFA players don;t care you prefer classic and you shouldn’t care what they like either.
Basically because of posts like this. Sorry to use you as an example. One or two people, fine… But when half the forums are full of people acting like the classic server is going to revolve around only what they want and that only their opinion matters, and that it should only go in the direction that they want, it’s hard to not want to tell them to shut up.
The crowd that doesn’t want anything changed isn’t the only crowd interested in classic. They have to accept that they’re going to be playing with people who have different opinions. And at the end of the day, it’s Blizzard’s game, not theirs, and Blizzard is going to do what THEY think is the best choice.
It’s not that we hate the classic players, it’s that we hate the mentality that they own the game.
…which, so far as they’ve indicated, is to provide as authentic an experience as possible. That means things like transmog are not going to be in Classic. This has been verified.
Personally, I’m delighted that you and others are interested in Classic. But I wouldn’t look forward to many QoL changes or transmog if I were you, unless Blizzard suddenly does an about-face.
It doesn’t matter what crowds are coming to classic or not. They are making classic to be vanilla like. Transmog is not vanilla like. Period. So it doesn’t matter what I want and it doesn’t matter what you want. That’s what the game is being made for. Period.
Correct, all that matters is what BLIZZARD wants. If they decide that they want to add certain things in, then they will. People create discussion to show that there is an interest or a lack of interest in something, because while Blizzard is making their own decisions on what they’re going to do with the server, they might decide to add some QOL improvements with it.
Blizzard is allowed to do things you don’t agree with. It’s their game. It’s their choice. They won’t miss any of us if we’re gone.
Blizzard has stated since day one the goal of classic was to provide an authentic experience.
Feel free to tell me what’s authentic about changing it.
If you want a game that is changing according to player feedback, a game like that exists. The whole point of vanilla is to go back to what was.
Classic was never intended to go back to vanilla and fix all the issues.
Classic was never intended to go back to vanilla and add all the things you liked over the years.
Let’s start by understanding what “authentic” means. If Blizzard put the current game into just having a 60 level cap and called it classic, it’s still authentic, because it’s made by Blizzard. At the same time, if a 3rd party made an exact replica of the original game, that’s also authentic.
They said it would be authentic, but NEVER said it would be accurate. Blizzard doesn’t back themselves into a corner like that, because they change their minds. By now, you should understand that there is no such thing as a definite with Blizzard.
So, sorry, you have to deal with it. Some people are going to have different ideas of where the classic server should go, and their opinion matters just as much as yours. Ultimately, Blizzard is going to do what Blizzard wants to do. If that means that they listen to the input behind some recommended changes and decide that it’s better to add it to classic, then it’s going into classic. If that’s a problem for you, get a job at Blizzard and work your way up to being in charge of development of classic.
I heard you can get NoChangers to reenact Braveheart by asking if you can Transmog your horrible PvP set.
Still, Blizz knows what they can and can’t conceivably do, and if they’re not willing to go without some required systems like sharding and right click reporting, they should be honest about their presence before we get any closer to launch.
That’s not authentic vanilla at all.
That’s an authentic blizzard game.
But it’s not authentic vanilla.
Authentic and accurate are synonymous.
Authentic means genuine.
The only way blizzard makes money off classic is by drawing in those who aren’t subbed, and that’s not going not happen by promising an authentic vanilla, and then turning around and changing it.
Here’s something people are missing, though, and his points give a great example. So no changes… Give one solid reason why dungeon finder shouldn’t exist, just remove the teleporting to the dungeon. Why shouldn’t he be on the side of wanting dungeon finder?
Before you say that it’s because it wasn’t in classic: It was. It was a menu choice when you clicked on an innkeeper. It put you in queue, and it formed your group. It had some problems that were fixed later, like forcing a tank and healer, but it originally came into the game in patch 1.4, if you clicked on a meeting stone.
The difference is literally just a UI and a slight fix. Dungeon finder without teleporting to the dungeon existed in 2005.
These are the kinds of changes people are pushing for. Plus some changes that were made for big reasons.
Blizzard will NEVER say that it’s going to be 100% accurate to what the game was like back then. While the goal now might be to be as close to what it was as possible, they’ve always accepted that things will have to change. Blizzard does not work in absolutes. That’s why every release is “soon.”
If you didn’t know perfectly well that your “UI and a slight fix” would be a big change, you wouldn’t be arguing for it at all, instead of arguing for what they actually had the innkeeper or meeting stone do. Sure, they can put back in what they had with the meeting stone. As far as I can see, the number of no-changers objecting to that is–coincidentally the same as the number of people I ever knew who even once used a meeting stone to form a dungeon group–zero.
You want to know why rdf is bad? Because in vanilla you have a reputation. Get a bad rep because your a jerk or ninja or terrible at your job and it makes it so people don’t group with you. This is a form of self policing of behavior.
Rdf removed the ability to do that.
If you wanted say the lfg hi that lets you put groups together more easily I could potentially get behind that.
But most people aren’t asking for stuff like that. We get people asking for balance, transmog, etc.
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