Why do night elves shun their troll heritage?

No I mean I’m telling you to disregard it because I was incorrect in that instance where I quoted Chronicle. Uh, sorry. lol

Within reason, of course I support people keeping their own land, but the trolls seem to want all the land. The Elves need somewhere to stand you know, they cant be out to sea forever. I think no matter they went there would be problems with trolls, go to Northrend and the Drakkari will get pissed off, go to the southern half of the eastern kingdoms and the Gurubashi will get pissed off. And they cant go back to Kalimdor. Settle on any of the bigger islands in the great sea and the Zandalari will probably be pissed off.

Oh, lol. Gotcha.

I have to say the Amanis reaction was perhaps rash at first. But it’s understandable. At the the end it was a defense of their territory.

Let’s say that’s true. It’s not an excuse. Not for what happened, not for making no attempt at diplomacy. We know some other races could live next to Trolls, even next to the Drakkari.
But we’ve been trough with that.

If I have to take my best guess, I think blizz wrote it in such a way where its just an unfortunate conflict, with both sides having understandable reasons for what they did. I mean this is old lore, and we’re still arguing about it, thats how well written it is lol.

That’s the point though. You can totally argue from an in game / lore perspective of / for both sides.

One can argue for the Elves position from an in lore perspective and that’s perfectly fine.
It’s more if you take a step back you can see it on another level.

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Well there’s also the matter of sending the High Elves across the sea, with no advanced scouts or actual knowledge of what they’d come across.

Instead of arriving blindly on some random landmass, starved for mana and willing to fight/kill whoever they had to across to get it, they could have just gone somewhere else on Kalimdor. Kalimdor has leylines as well.

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To note, we know that Tirisfal was settled after the defeat of Zakazj and Kith’ix, and that this was thousands of years before the Zandalari would wake Kith’ix up again, and that the Amani only ended up heading east from the Zandalar Mountains because they were chasing Kith’ix. This is rather definitive that the Humans were there before the Amani.

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Almost all land on Azeroth is technically troll land, right?

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No it isn’t. If nelves wouldn’t feel like conquering entire world and then blowing it up anyway, there would be still plenty of space for others to live on.

Not really, for example, with Eldre’Thalas being Dire Maul and Then’Ralore now being the Overgrowth in the Southern Barrens, the Trolls never expanded to almost any of what is now still called Kalimdor:

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That quest never made any sense to me. Thrall was never allied with Forest trolls, He was the one who attacked them before going to Kalimdor. Why would they betray Thrall if they were never allied before?

But there are plenty nonsensical quests in this game. Apparently Darkspears had a village in Eversong woods that Amani raided and burned.

Don’t ask how, when, why…

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I cant remember, does that troll we help in Eversong say he’s darkspear, or do we assume it just because he has a jungle troll model?

He was a Darkspear. This NPCs purpose was to antagonise Amani against Darkspears despite them never interacting before.

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Hmm, then that is pretty odd, I guess they could be darkspear that got on one of thralls stolen ships in WC3, but the maelstrom blew them off course and they ended up in Quel’Thalas, where the Amani just attacked them because they dont like Jungle trolls? (maybe?).

Its a stretch, but it would make more sense than them always having been there.

It’s not just that they settled a village right under elves nose! There were no orcs mentioned.

Why would Darkspears split if they were already a small tribe? Why would they go all the way up to the north?

It was never mentioned in any other event/ source either.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Zul%27Marosh_(quest)

I think it is because the Night Elves see the Trolls as primitive. It also might because they see them as too violent, since the Night Elves come from the dark trolls, who were much more peaceful.

Thats the day WoW truly died for me. When devs announced nelves came from trolls.

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Why? I mean it makes sense…pointy ears, highly territorial, it was almost obvious!

I would ask why you didn’t include Blood Elves on this list, since they ALSO seem keen on shunning their troll heritage, but that would require you to say something potentially critical about Quel’thelas, and GOD KNOWS you’ll spontaneously combust if you ever had to do that.

Did I not make a post earlier about the sunstrider royal family possibly practicing incest (causing their shorter lifespans than other blood elves). I’d say that qualifies as saying something critical of quel’thalas.