Why do casuals care?

Gee, wonder why.

How’s that campaign to make the game easier going?

How’s not having beta? As someone who you say Blizzard doesn’t care about but had my entire roster got Beta. It’s been great.

Everyone had a treat testing Torghast, playing with covenants and doing raid testing today.

How’s your beta experience going?

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Thanks. My request was this:

The first post you linked is not somebody saying “how they’re going to blacklist certain covenant/class combinations”, but what the poster ACTUALLY said was:
“That being said there will be times you will be punished for your covenant choice, more so if you are looking to push higher tier content.”
Not claiming that they were going to do so, just saying there could be people who might.

The second poster didn’t say he was going after specific comps, but gave a couple examples to illustrate his main point:
“Its nothing against people and their choices but i’m not going to purposefully gimp myself for people i dont know.”

I wouldn’t personally count this one, but sure we can count it as one since I’ll be generous.

Oh dear.
Well, first of all, Asmongold doesn’t even play WoW, I don’t think.
Second, he doesn’t play it well (and never has).
Third, he’s a lazy click-bait youtuber.
And fourth, he’s SO lazy as youtuber that rather than make content, he just records himself watching other peoples’ videos and posting it online.

Asmongold’s content isn’t worthless, it’s even less than worthless. There are not words in English to describe how completely useless it is.

So you’ve got 1 post, if we’re generous.

Can you find two more?

I don’t care. Why do you care if I care?

But you didn’t get the Alpha? Must not be that important if they let the B-Team get the sloppy thirds.

I just want to re-iterate why I’m asking for specifics:

This is not true. I just want to make sure we’re all clear on that.

Because of PF I will pick one and stick with it. Other than that, I DON’T CARE.

This is so reaching, even for a knock off brand Ralph.

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I’m not the one flaunting his Beta status like it matters.

The poster of that thread also just admitted to this:

Literally, the poster saying that they’re going to discriminate against certain covenant choices. I’m counting it as one.

This entire statement here is you just giving up.

Asmongold has played WoW since day one of it’s release; He’s the biggest WoW streamer in the world if not the biggest streamer in the world and plays WoW daily on his stream. He’s in beta, he was in alpha, and intends (as far as I know) to play Shadowlands. He’s never quit WoW for a substantial amount of time that it made any sort of community impact.

He’s not a click-bait YouTuber. He doesn’t do YouTube.

I wouldn’t say his content is useless - I actually agree with the guy on many things and appreciate his input but I disagree with him widely on Covenants. By the way, his stance on Covenants supports the main argument that players are discussing in regards to not accepting folks based on certain covenant choices.

I’m not going to keep finding posts, particularly individual posts in condensed threads just to sate your stubbornness. I gave you three examples. You just chose not to acknowledge them as what they are.

I guess, but I’d consider this to be more subjective. I guess I’m on the forums during darker periods of time where people tend to complain more and you’re not.

I guess if, in some way, you can prove to me that players WON’T be blacklisting others based on covenant choices, then I’ll fold but until then, I’m standing by my point.

You realize that Timbaeslice doesn’t even pug, right?

I don’t really care what a person does. They posted a thread that spoke about how they were going to blacklist people based on covenants. I’m sorry that I don’t know that person’s life and what they do in the game. I don’t care; What matters is how people perceive the system and what they say about it. All of us could be WoW W’s and it wouldn’t matter. I don’t care what someone does in terms of content; I care about what their thoughts and opinions are.

It counts.

But… he didn’t say that. I already explained that to you…

Yeah, not sure what the mood of this thread is - I’ve always stated my intentions and complaints are to make the best and most accessible version of the game for everyone.

I’m not going to suffer by any changes or thing’s that don’t get changed. It’s always going to be the casuals.

But… he did… he admitted to his thread… he admitted to it in this thread… I showed you the proof…

Your proof was “yes i posted the thread that I posted”.

My proof was a quote showing that he didn’t say what you claim he said.

YES he posted that thread.
NO the thread didn’t say what you claim.

I mean… come on…

I like flavorful choices not a skill that a reskin of the same ability. I want it to look and play uniquely not be balanced based on min max.

I was never going to be a person who suffers from any of the stupid systems shadowlands has. I’ve already got three geared shamans :slight_smile:

Breh. We’re talking about a thread that doesn’t even exist anymore. Timbae said it warranted him a 3-day forum vacation. I assume that means the thread was completely removed.

Even so, in the other thread he posted, he still discussed the, as you said, potential of blacklisted players based on covenant choice. Which is what we’re arguing here… whether or not the blacklisting will actually happen. It will.

Literally never :laughing: