Yeah but I’d trust his word over high elf fanatics who half the time make up lore and say It’s fact.
Yeah, one is a part of the horde and the other had 90% of their race join the horde.
Yeah but I’d trust his word over high elf fanatics who half the time make up lore and say It’s fact.
Yeah, one is a part of the horde and the other had 90% of their race join the horde.
Except there’s never been an official count of high elves, they show in strong numbers in game when they are present.
If we can admit that he’s wrong about lore and what defines a race, then we dont’ have to point to him for proof. That’s an appeal to authority, and not an argument.
Especially if he can be wrong about it.
That’s nice.
I’m inclined to agree with you on that, but mostly because I hate void elves due to their very existence making zero sense, they were created entirely in order to give the alliance the belf model without giving them the high elf race in an attempt to please one side without pissing the other off. They’re a joke.
I’m sorry if that trashes your idea that no one speculated on where the Nightborne were going to end up. Whether or not you want to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it didn’t happen, it was talked about.
The Nightborne could very easily have gone to the Alliance, and suddenly that 10,000 year divide wouldn’t matter.
Also, the Lightforged Draenei were a thousand years apart or more from their regular Draenei brethren. We know time works different out there. Did it matter to them?
I’m inclined to agree with you on that, but mostly because I hate void elves due to their very existence making zero sense, they were created entirely in order to give the alliance the belf model without giving them the high elf race in an attempt to please one side without pissing the other off. They’re a joke.
The funny thing is they could have just said “Silver Covenent High Elves sought the power of the Void and became Void Elves”.
EZPZ.
Why did they HAVE to be Blood Elves?
but he’s the director and he’s saying that belfes are helves and their biology supports that.
It’s more laziness and the fact it would cost money to essentially do a reskin copy to the alliance.
And when I say laziness I mean he would have to argue the case get the greenlight for it.
The only possible ways for this to every happen is demand from BE/player base as a whole or a mega shareholder(s)/executive wanting to do it.
In a few minutes you already came up with a lore reason that’s far better than what Blizzard did for them. See how poorly made they are?
Not even the one who came up with it, haha. It’s such an easy fix.
Or they could have given void elves to the horde, the reason for exiling them was a bit of a reach.
I’m very happy the Horde didn’t get the ticking time bomb that the Horrific Vision of Stormwind revealed them to be.
You guys can keep 'em.
Whether or not you want to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it didn’t happen, it was talked about.
Blood elves having blue eyes has been talked about since their release. Even blizzards development team themselves in a Q&A said eventually their eyes will revert back to their natural blue forms after time has passed, why are people freaking out and so surprised now?
The Nightborne could very easily have gone to the Alliance, and suddenly that 10,000 year divide wouldn’t matter.
It would still matter 100% the whole point is they’re different from night elves due to that fact regardless of which faction they’re on. Void elves are literally just blood elves with a tentacle in their hair.
Or they could have given void elves to the horde, the reason for exiling them was a bit of a reach.
they’re literally a threat to the sunwell, of course they’d exile them
Sadly they were just rushed, they could’ve given them some background and ended up being actually great, like the Vulpera, it’s a brand new race that nobody heard about before, but at least we had an entire zone that explained what we were and how we joined, Void Elves didn’t exist until the recruitment scenario and that is why I think they were rushed just so the Alliance could finally get the belf model and maybe shut up about the whole high elf deal.
After being killed off to few enough to be housed in a few camps of the northern kingdoms, Green Orcs surely must be down to single digits these days too after everything thats happened to now…
Blood elves having blue eyes has been talked about since their release.
You’re misrepresenting it. The discussion was always about understanding that Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei were different groups. We only started hearing “high elves are blood elves” in this context after it fell out of Ion’s mouth.
It would still matter 100% the whole point is they’re different from night elves due to that fact regardless of which faction they’re on.
You’re still a Horde Night Elf.
I don’t remember that coming up. They didn’t want another Dar’khan incident, who was already morally compromised before he began his research and was actively plotting against his people during it.
Is it so hard to see that a lot of people want to be on the “good side” aka “blue side” aka “horses - paladins - heroes - towns - medieval fantasy” while being an elf?
Grey or not who is the good side or not face the facts. The alliance are painted as the good guys. People want to be the good guys while being an “fair elf” like any traditional fantasy world. Its crazy how people don’t see that.
You’re misrepresenting it. The discussion was always about understanding that Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei were different groups. We only started hearing “high elves are blood elves” in this context after it fell out of Ion’s mouth.
No, people have said that forever. Literally the only difference is they changed their name and decided they liked red instead of blue. To me that doesn’t justify cloning that exact same race except saying “Oh well these ones actually like blue and their eyes are still blue but they’re completely different and therfore a valid race for the opposite faction”
You’re still a Horde Night Elf
And night elves are just alliance trolls.
No, people have said that forever.
You can recontextualize the past all you want, it’s still wrong. It was well understood that there was a difference between Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei, even if they were biologically the same. You’re parroting Hazzikostas because you’re appealing to authority.
And night elves are just alliance trolls.
Except they’re not.
The shared history between the Kaldorei and Shaldorei is recent enough that Tyrande grew up in Suramar, which is the Shaldorei capital.
None of the trolls today ever shared a society with the Night Elves. Part of that is because the Night Elves were immortal and modern trolls aren’t.
This is a very misinformed thing to say.