Why do blue eyes matter so much? Seriously though why the rage?

No, you agree and that is all there is, or im taking your customization options away.

You too Lori.
Im holding your characters hostage!

It depends how you view it.
Bio wise? No
Politically? Sure.
The devs dont care about politics tho ugh h since it can be written in whatever way

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B-but I’m the the most basic of human characters! I don’t even plan on using any of the new options on this toon!

Clearly you forget I’m a Night Elf Druid. Just gonna cat form, shadowmeld, actual stealth and sprint away! You’ll never catch me even with your special special eyes!

Actual stealth breaks on damage, prepare to be beamed.
Lorithyn, prepare to lose what you never had!

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All stealth breaks on damage except for initial vanish. >.>
Also I’ve been pvpin for years, I can run away like no ones business!

I have little to no PvP experience. Friggin fite me, bro!

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Hence you get hit with glaive throw first. If you reappear i save my SIGHT BEYOND SIGHT!

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Source? First I’ve heard of anything official saying that void elves can make more of themselves.

Because they’re purple? The void elves literally were blood elves at the beginning of their recruitment scenario. That’s not very distinct.

Nope, they’re operating independently in Legion. And there’s no sign of them in the Legion version of Dalaran, which implies that they are no longer associated with the city.

The void elves are not recruiting, but they are open to those who share similar interests. Their research has attracted other elves to Telogrus, with both Silvermoon scholars and high elven wayfarers arriving to study the ways of the Void. They are trying to find out if they can reproduce the original process that transformed the void elves

its just a matter of when they can reproduce the process

yes

completely pointless, since they were also high elves

before obviously they were not distinct, but now they are, very different in both model and thematic.

they weren’t, in suramar they worked under the night elf leadership

of course they are there, you can find their place there.

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The SC are surrounded by kirin tor members though…

How about they just give void elfs this option and call it a day? I seriously don’t want to see another ELF for alliance more than Void/Night elf… cmon, I’d rather see Tuskmaster, or other Allied races than elfs just for “A fancy blue eyes.”

How about we just say no and call it a day?
We then mute any threads after the big no

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Personally I have always found likely that many HE’s could have returned to Quel’danas from everywhere, what I don’t find likely or lore friendly is that a majority of those would swear into the Horde.

Regardless of that, I do find entirely plausible that enough elves did, since, again, they would have come from everywhere in the diaspora.

Specifically about your character, that’s interesting -and perhaps not unlikely the political mindset of Umbric’s group-. A question though, how did you elf justify going from Alliance to Horde? Was she ever staunchly alliance, or was it more than she had her own reasons for joining the expedition? Was the desire to return home greater than any loyalty she had possibly gained for the alliance? Was it a hard choice or was her main goal just to return home after being away so long?

It will be so annoying tho. And with forum avatars too dear lord.

But for now, they can’t. Which means the population argument against high elves can be applied doubly for void elves, which was my original point.

no

Entirely the point, because they’re less removed from blood elves than the remaining quel’dorei that still call themselves high elves and have been culturally, idealogically, and physically removed from the Quel’thelas blood elves for several decades now.

Same model actually, slightly different skin tone and hair.

So they were working with the Alliance, not Dalaran, which was my original point. Welcome to the conversation.

Wrong. The Alliance side of Dalaran is staffed by worgen in Legion.

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Exactly, that is what they are bringing to the story, but what is not what the story is.

When the Sun Well was destroyed they did what they needed to do to keep their people safe and alive. Blood Elves used fel to power enchantments which defended and reconstructed the city while it was surrounded by undead (they did not feed on it). In order to keep alive the young, old, and weak they fed on mana from animals. These other high elves ran off to suck on magic artifacts, which was not a solution for the whole population, while the majority of their people struggled. Without being part of the solution, Alliance high elves cast judgment from the comfort of their human and Draenei hosts.

These high elves are not part of the Alliance’s identity, they are an antagonist in the Blood Elf story, written to extend the experience to Alliance players.

Worse still is the Silver Covenant… Who at this time is guilty of unresolved of war crimes and other severe actions including: collective punishment, cruel and unusual punishment, extrajudicial and arbitrary imprisonment and execution. Something that we were recently reminded of when the leader of the Sun Reavers threw his lot in with Sylvanus, not because his beliefs aligned with hers, but because he thought that was the only route to obtain justice for him and his people. We are not done with the story of the Silver Covenant, and I do not think that it ends with them becoming playable.

Some people want the story to be about those dirty high brow Blood Elves versus those clean and noble Alliance high elves, but that’s not what the story is.

…and that story continues on the Horde where it is a major part of the overall story and faction identity, unlike high elves on the Alliance. The Blood Elves have the bulk of the population, capital city, homeland, and the continuation of the high elf story. Alliance high elves are just a human centric side story.

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they will, and no, the population is not aplied, first, high elves groups are scater around the world, you have a small group in dalaran, another group living in huts with dwarves and draeneis and other in stormwind

if you take all of then and put in the same room, yeah maybe they could outnumber the void elves, but its not the case, void elves, by coming from a big population of high elves(blood elves, 90% of the race) is obviouslly more populous that those groups separated, including the silver covenant

the proof is how their forces stand on their own in Battle for Azeroth, not being other group sidekicks

still yes, because they are different

again, entielly pointless, because the main argument of high elves is their alliance aligment, and now, void elves are aligned with the alliance

its the same race, and now they are alliance, again, nitpicking over is pointless.

Thats a lie, they are not “removed culturally, ideologically, and physically” for several decades

The separation for blood and high elves is roughly ONE decade, seven to eight years to me precise, their culture still the same, the thallasian culture, their physically is still the same, and the only thing different is their faction alignment.

that is the difference, still sia difference to separate elves of 2 different factions

but they were still the leadership of someone else and you said they were on their own.

you can still find the silver covenant and other npcs in dalaran.

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And they did not show up for the War of Thorns… remaining only available when Dalaran is.

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Conjecture.

They would 100% outnumber the void elves. We see the entirety of the void elves in their recruitment scenario. There’s maybe a dozen of them.

No, actually, the point of high elves on the Alliance was to play the original Elven fantasy from the Warcraft II and III games. The blood elves in BC were a major departure from that.

I meant they were independent of Dalaran, when the person I was talking to claimed they wouldn’t act on behalf of the Alliance. Don’t jump into the middle of a conversation and take things out of context. Now who’s nitpicking?

No, you can’t. The SC are not present in Legion Dalaran.

Nobody showed up for the War of Thorns. That’s the whole point. The Night Elves were on their own.

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