Why do blue eyes matter so much? Seriously though why the rage?

I think the same of what you’re saying.

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Uh, no. I’m pointing out the irrefutable fact that High Elves were originally Alliance, and that might’ve stuck to people.

We’re talking about 1994 - 2002 releases (I’m giving you the benefit that High Elves weren’t considered Alliance in WC3). That’s 8 years to bond.

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Exactly. On the one hand, I get what Ion’s trying to do, on the other hand, it’s painful for me to see how much of HE identity BE players don’t understand. Many literally rolled them not knowing anything about their history and that BE hordeside was a compromise in Blizz trying to Balance the factions. And all the language of the time from Vanilla was out hinted at this.

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Blizz used a staple of the Alliance to draw players to Horde, which was not played as much back in Vanilla, and now I’m seeing excuses and revisionist history about their origin. Regardless of what they are now, it’s like, no, I played the RTS from middle school into college. I know where they started lol

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I’m kinda samish. I know the history and the revisionism bothers me. I don’t mind so much Horde getting them. I mean heck, Ion just wants everyone Horde right? Another nail in the coffin.

What did they have, a page of story? I guess, but it’s not much to bond to, and those high elves became the Blood Elves. That’s the continuation of that story. And that old Alliance was a different Alliance. What those people want is a human centric high elf story and Blood Elves don’t offer that. They offer a high elf centric high elf story. The stories these players are attracted to are the stories that those player tell. It’s a niche thing.

If you want to get technical, the former citizens of Lorderon are on the Horde now too. The Horde is the old Alliance.

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Stormwind was the very first Alliance, noob.

You play a game for 8 years and tell me you don’t bond to it. You’re literally exemplifying a bond to a game you play. You play BE so you’re defending BE, regardless of the fact your race started Alliance.

Btw, Forsaken were their own faction in WC3.

Sure, but these people are bonding to more than a game.

No, they’re bonding to games. Lore is part of the game. It’s all fiction.

… and the fiction they bring to it more than the fiction that is there. If they love high elves so much, they can play one on the Horde. That’s what Blood Elves are. The continuation of the high elf story, and one that advances them beyond the tiny waisted women hanging off of big strong men.

Hm, not even sure about your point. High Elves were male archers in WC1 and WC2. Not women clinging to them. Is that a WC3 or WoW reference? BE women have the smallest waist of all females in the game.

And sorry, constantly making your High Elf archers for years probably makes you like them, story or not. Just like I don’t care about Mario or Link’s story, which is almost nonexistent in 30 - 40 years.

Do you even want to be sure about it? I think you’re giving me a hard time. These archers you’re on about, aren’t a story. You’re trying to sell me on a meal of crumbs. Even then, those archers are Blood Elves now. They have been for a long time. The one’s that didn’t aren’t a thing in the way you want them to be and no amount of arguing about the most irrelevant aspects of the game will make it a sticking point. Warcraft is a big world, there’s plenty else to bond to.

But did those Blood Elves start on Alliance? That’s literally the only point I’ve tried to make that you seem dead set on denying.

PS - and talk about irrelevant. You mentioned waist sizes lol

I never denied that High Elves stated the franchise in an Alliance with humans.

Alliance high elves exist to serve a weird sex thing with human men, or at least in the writers role playing sessions. All three Windrunner sisters did it. For people who aren’t disproportionately focused on Alliance high elves, it may be their most distinct feature.

Lmao okay. So I’m the one

Done here. Have a good one.

I know you only wrote that to act condescending, and I hope you can find some other super specific part of the game to pine over. Hopefully something a little less niche and dated.

You have a good one also.

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And people who want to play as those archers from Warcraft 2 can, on the Horde… where they have become a significant part of that faction’s identity.

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It’s a big deal because it’s the Reich thing to do. Ya know, blond hair and blue eyes… /endsarcasm

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