Why do blue eyes matter so much? Seriously though why the rage?

Well, the issue with SC elves is actually trust. They broke the trust of the Belves and broke it badly (remember Suramar questchain, when someone as forgiving as Liadrin says she rather expose her flank to the Nelves (even if their military units weren´t the best pick for the job) than expose it to Veeresa and Co.? Cause I do remember. And mind you, she literally says she doesn´t trust Veeresa.

Simply put it, some SC individuals could maybe return, but I don´t see the Belf population looking at them with anything but distrust. And under such scenario… why bother returning?

1 Like

While true , it is overwhelmingly depressing.

I would rather argue about lore than face the ruinously bent position of the Alliance in the hordedev’s hands.

A few clicks of someone’s mouse?

Who can really know. None of the story really makes sense. One could pose any nonsensical scenario and it would just likely enough.

Perhaps the non-SinDorei will form some titan cult and rain down destruction as giant kaiju statues destroying Stormwind and turning the alliance into seafaring hobos.

Seems as likely as everything else thus far.

Chances are that the writers just haven’t thought of what to do with them. But when that time comes I’m sure they will have their shoehorns ready.

vereesa herself got as far as trisfal glades to joining the horde. so its definitely possible

their future is either assimilation into either the void elves or the progenitors of a half elf race

they have NO story that could be told that is not already being fulfilled by blood elves or void elves

blood elves(high elves) are almost everything someone who wants to play a traditional high elf can enjoy, the problem is these people hate the horde

1 Like

Literally BS. Unless you guys bring here the financial proof you “bought” the rights of blue eyed customization from Activision Blizzard, then frankly this isn´t your bussiness and you will do well with abstaining from making ignorant remarks and/or opinions.

Golden eye customization put a nail in the coffin of perma fel corruption on elves, so… how about you guys just ask for constructive things like a light skinned model on Velf or a Helf model with more evident modifications as to make it playable and leave the Blood elf population´s petitions in peace?

2 Likes

I disagree, they have Alleria and Vareesa both falling madly in love with humans to turn their backs on their race.

That’s really not your place to decide? There has been blue eyed blood elves in the game for some time now, the idea that a Blood elf might not have been corrupted by the fel in the same way many High elves weren’t is not a far-fetched idea.

There’s nothing wrong with adding cosmetics to reflect a player’s agency in deciding their character’s history. When they explained the rational behind these cosmetics they were very careful to point out that they were not against the narrative, and that despite what quest-text says these cosmetics are meant to help reflect the many different possibilities available to them.

If someone makes a blue eyed elf, it’s up to the player whether or not it’s a Blue eye blood elf, or a High elf who’s joined the Horde. It’s the very purpose they’re adding these new customizations in the first place.

3 Likes

Well, Windrunners are always causing trouble. The direction of a whole race is a different thing… maybe.

Let´s be real… that was just the usual shty writting of Golden (I mean Veeresa contemplating to join the most amoral Horde faction after the whole WotLK complaining was truly lolworthy).

I agree completely, but tell those people they can deviate and they won´t listen. They have been complaining and throwing temper tantrums and ignoring the lore when it´s convenient for them for more than 13 years. Frankly at this point maybe we would get less drama if devs gave them their playable Blood Elf model on Alliance from an “acceptable Helf source” and put clear boundaries that guarantee they won´t stomp on Belf lore.

Windrunners are a walking lore embarrasement and frankly the glorified vehicle to gift trophy elf candy wives to some self inserting male writers, no more and no less.

2 Likes

they already did and nope to the rest

1 Like

we proud members of the Alliance have wanted your Horde race with blue eyes for years. Now that you got more of what you already had, of course it’s a big deal. you took away our option to have what you have!

thanks obama

3 Likes

Agreed.

Especially now that Quel’thalas is more independent and not at the beck and call in the Horde now. So out from under the heel of humans, orcs, dwarves, etc.

The reasoning for “quel’dorei” to not return is now at a high point of ridiculous.

Which, if the customization is real, makes sense for them to put them in now.

1 Like

A long time ago in the distant land of 2007, Blizzard had two problems to solve.

They needed to fix The Horde low population, and they needed a race to add Paladin with. Thus, Blood Elves were born. They’re a pretty race, an established race, and they were a highly requested race.

Hence comes the problem. A majority of those requests were from Alliance players of the time. So these Blood Elves took a lot of those players to The Horde, and those who didn’t make the move never stopped crying about it.

History lesson over.

2 Likes

Ehhh, they gave a marred version to let the Alliance know its place. The vigil was still on for High Elves.

More of us know our places now than before though.

I understand where you come from, but believe me… after years of discussion with those people, I´ve come to realize that nothing you say to them will make them think otherwise as their narrowminded “only valid cause WC2” mentality.

If you were here after the whole Velf debacle was announced, Im sure you saw some of the positively haunting and terribad petitions some of the Helfers made at the time (heck, I know one that basically pretends to get Quel´thalas back in the Alliance in game), so believe me, devs policing and actually making very clear the limits on the Helf gameplay experience could actually be positive (as in: no more threads asking for Belf NPCs to roll Alliance nor Void elves destroy Silvermoon scenarios not any other inane thing they can concoct under the premise of “we don´t know and our lore should be this”).

1 Like

:crazy_face:
But is it a slap in the face?

2 Likes

Honestly, Blizzard never should have never made fair-skinned elves Alliance-aligned in Warcraft 2 if they didn’t want them to be Alliance. That’s ultimately the origin of all this contention.

Basically, Blizzard are jerks.

Edit: It would be like giving Alliance goblins. Imagine horde players’ reactions if Alliance got goblins in cata. Maybe then they would understand the outrage.

2 Likes

Not the same thing, Blood Elves never should have been part of the horde to start with honestly.

2 Likes

Someone was saying in another thread that she’s loyal to the Wryn’s and not the Alliance.

i wanna swap to the double eye color blue and gold or whatever it was.

Something something muh high elves something something warcraft 2 something something silver covenant something something alliance elves.

Yeah, I don’t get the draw to play goody-goody, one-dimensional, generic Tolkien elves either.

2 Likes