Kosak was one of her writers as well. Arguably her “biggest” fan.
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He wrote her when he had total power over the narrative and abused it to take revenge for Metzen killing Garrosh. That is Bfa. He ain’t caring about Horde either he just wanted Sylvanas to be hated by everyone.
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That’s a good question. Jaina–she had a shot at being awesome in BfA and the narrative clowns blew it, she’s otherwise always managed to be a very annoying character who now honestly doesn’t really have anything left to do.
Not sure if he counts as an Alliance leader anymore but Magni Bronzebeard. His whole “turned into diamond” thing was a miss for me, and constantly being in your head during BfA “Champee-yon! Our wuhr-uld needs yuu to taek the Azur-yte off the corpses of those wee kobolds in that caeyve!”
Greymane might be the only character that dies of old age, but he’s had a good run and that might be a better ending for him. Give him the Vito Corleone ending.
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Attempt at deleting Nelves to shoehorn more humans was definitely bad. As if Wolfheart wasn’t bad enough.
I think Sylvanas wasn’t portrayed poorly, because she has never been good. But the whole plot regarding Zovaal and SL is what ruined it.
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Sylvanas’ writing was mostly a tug-of-war between one of her biggest fanboys and biggest haters. Ironically, both of them were part of the Cosby suite crew.
Sylvanas’ writing was mostly a tug-of-war between one of her biggest fanboys (Kosak) and biggest haters (Afrasiabi). Ironically, both of them were part of the Cosby suite crew. And it was Afrasiabi who directed BfA.
I will, probably unfairly, blame Kosak for the uneven quality of Cataclysm content. They spent so much time and resources on Silverpine Forest questing that I blame it for the unfinished and cut nature of other parts of Cataclysm.
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So was the Horde questing in vanilla but that doesn’t matter as long as the alliance had their fun right? The Alliance had 9 zones. The Horde 4. If you don’t see a problem with that you are part of the problem. Cata questing was a massive apology letter to the Horde as compensation for the terrible original launch.
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I tried to think of a single aspect of the WoT or Battle for Lordaeron that wasn’t stupid.
I cannot, and feel that that sorta set the stage for what was to follow.
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If this was supposed to be a response to my post, then I would suggest that you are responding to something that I didn’t say.
IIRC, the devs flat-out admitted that they ran out of time when it came to Cataclysm writing. It’s why they’ll probably never try a full old-world update all at once again. I’d speculate Silverpine was likely one of the first zones they worked on, and they only later realized that they wouldn’t be able to devote that much time and attention to all the storylines.
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RIP the Twilight Highlands intro.
The worgen equivalent of Bilgewater Harbor.
Sensical plot developments.
I will happily gripe about Kosak though, so that is all low hanging fruit. Dragon Isles might be saccharine, but it’s a lot more tolerable. And dangit, I LIKE the nifflen.
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I don’t know if this was ever going to happen—at least, I never heard anything about it being planned. I always thought Bilgewater Harbor was an attempt to give the Horde more cities because they didn’t get as many as the Alliance in Vanilla.
You said its bad that Silverpine got the most love. But I say this was to make up for the fact that the Horde experience was bad until then and after the Barrens the Horde needed a new cool zone where everyone wanted to be instead.
Very possible. And to be fair, I wouldn’t change Bilgewater Harbor for the world. It’s one of the things I really like about Cata: it’s genuinely a fun place to hang out with a very interesting look and great RP possibilities.
Even now, I’ve been known to just chill out there.
I wish worgen had been as well-incorporated as goblins, but even leaving aside Cata wonkiness, I know why they weren’t. Goblins already had a lot of the legwork done and were already all over the world.
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Goblins are really everywhere just like Trolls. I wonder how humans managed to be more powerful all the time regardless.
Probably because of the goblin love of inadvertent self detonation.
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I’d probably add more quests that give more reasons to go there in the first place… probably some engineering stuff?
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To be fair, I also occasionally chill in Rachet and Booty Bay.
Maybe I just like parking in goblin towns and living my best life between bouts of pvp.
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I hope we see Undermine one day. The vibrant heart of goblin society on Azeroth after we already saw Mechagon.
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First, you’re trying to turn this into some Horde v. Alliance thing. You will note that my original post that you were responding to contained neither the word “Horde” nor the word “Alliance”. Second, you’re flat out wrong. More zones went Horde in Cata to rectify the zone imbalance from Vanilla, but that had nothing to do with the love and attention that Silverpine got relative to every other zone in Cata, Horde or Alliance.
I dare say that Zuleika’s explanation is likely the correct one. Blizz’s project management skills were abysmal in Cata and they bit off way more than they could chew.
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