Probably just some silly knucklehead, just play what you think is fun and find a guild your happy with. 
I rerolled Orc to level 6 but I miss being a troll. So racials matter as much in TBC if they let us transfer characters? Will orc still be best. I made my orc blueish but he just isnât the same.
I didnât read through all 122 posts, but aged core leather gloves work for weapon skill as well, and Deathâs Sting is BiS for Warrior if Iâm remembering correctly, although I could be wrong on that. Either way youâll be able to easily get those gloves, f youâre not able to produce the 7k or whatever it takes to buy edgemasters in your server. Play whatever race you like, donât listen to the meta police. If youâre an Orc and you donât like your character, are you really going to be happy? Do what most resonates with you and just have fun. You can absolutely orange parse as a Troll Warrior and theyâre arguably the best race for fury/prot tanks, because berserk is awesome for initial aggro.
Edit to add: if youâre looking to be the absolute best possible Warrior you can be, then sure, go Orc. If youâre trying to just have fun, raid without joining the most elite guild on your server and still do perfectly fine, then a Troll will be just fine. There are numerous options if youâre not trying to be the absolute best, min/max class. Aged Core Leather gloves and Deathâs Sting (8 dagger skill) Edgemasters (7 skill in anything but maxes) dual Hakkari blades from ZG (6 sword skill).
The swords from ZG will definitely be the lowest DPS option of the three, but the other two options work perfectly fine for all raid content including Naxx.
For real, none of that min-max mumbojumbo applies to 99% of players; theyâre not going to be optimizing their characters the the full extent anyway. The raid content in classic simply does not require it to be successful.
In fact, the needed DPS for a successful Patchwerk kill before enrage timer is about 237.5 DPS IIRC, which people are easily smashing even in PreBiS raid gear. Just shows how much peopleâs knowledge of the game has grown over time.
In that case, then why not just pick what race you like? Youâre going to be staring at it for a looong time anywayâŚ
Are you raiding with 40 dps?
But you are correct, the dps requirements will be a joke.
Orc warriors can be frustrating.
At least half of them have Blood Fury macroâd and use it in battlegrounds, unconcerned about the 50% healing debuff.
They then proceed to die, and complain about not being healed.
Iâve enabled detection of Blood Fury on my healing grid UI so I donât waste mana healing them while they have the healing debuff.
DS+Pugio with ACL is BiS dps until Naxx weapons; but itâs pretty selfish for a warrior to pick up a Deathâs Sting over a rogue given their other options.
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DS isnât that necessary, Pugio*2 is more than good enough for dagger warriors.
Can also get a Expert Goldminer Helmet (if meme race) and grab dual Blessed Qiraji War Axes (or a War axe and the AQ20 warrior axe), imo.
Double pugio is strong if going daggers, but DS is a ridiculous damage spike for dagger dps.
If you do decide to reroll donât delete this toon make a new one. Use your troll warrior as a level 35 crafter for Mooncloth / Refined Salt
Nothing bad about a haste buff for a tank.
daggers and dps dont go in the same sentence for warriors. you show me just ONE top dpsâing warrior in the entire world thats uses daggers. the damage is literal doo doo. the whole point of being a warrior is having your abilities scale off of your stats, and weapon speed is one of, if not, the biggest stats pertaining to warriors. ww and heroic strike scale off weapon damage and speed, and slower weapons mean big damage and bigger crits. im sorry but you will never convince me that a dagger, any dagger, can do more damage than r14 axe or deathbringer. its just not possible
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You arenât a meme, you just require Edgemasterâs to make up the difference, which locks an item slot if you are seriously trying to min/max raid.
Orcâs and humanâs donât need Edgemasterâs. Orcâs just need Axes. Ultimately, Zerking is the next best racial, but itâs nowhere near as strong as the orc axe racial + blood fury, if you are even in a position to self-apply mortal strike.
BT and Execute donât care about weapon top end. The only skill benefitting from a higher top end for a weapon with the same dps is WW. The rotation for dagger dps puts WW at a lower priority than HS. Thatâs the difference. The fact remains that Deathâs Sting is the highest dps MH weapon in the game right now. In combination with a pugio and ACL, the warrior will hit the 308 weapon skill soft cap for glancing blow.
Heroic Strike doesnât scale off of weapon damage or speed. Itâs not an instant skill that does weapon damage. Itâs on next swing. Faster weapon means itâs landing faster, and the bonus damage is flat. Itâs why swapping to a 1.3 like Alcorâs for Vael is a thing. HS spam is stronger with a faster MH.
If you read what your skills do and the numbers on the weapons, then youâd have no problem understanding why Fury dps will do more damage with DS+pugio than r14 weapons.
Tell the loser to get a life. More to the game than the meta.
Play what you find fun.
what does the tool tip of heroic strike say? dagger warriors lul, if it was a FACT like you say then surely one of the top performing dps warriors in the world would be doing it by now right? take your bs elsewhere
HS is not an instant attack. Itâs on next melee swing. There is no advantage for a slow weapon with high top end on HS like there is on MS or WW. The bonus damage attached to HS makes faster weapons stronger if youâre spamming it.
DS/Pugio + ACL puts warriors at the soft cap of 308 weapon skill with the highest dps MH weapon currently available in the game.
As to why every top performing dps in the world isnât using it, consider that the dagger has a 3% drop rate, you slobbering buffoon.
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heroic strike adds damage to what? YOUR TOTAL MELEE DAMAGE. your melee damage scales off your weapon damage. higher top end = more damage you purple parsing clown
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Big brain orc thinks 200 damage every 2 seconds is stronger than 100 damage every second. Big brain orc also thinks adding 100 damage to his 200 damage is stronger than adding 100 damage to one of two 100 damage swings.
The real argument for daggers being worse despite sims is that most of the raid is trash and daggers are worse for aoe/cleave pulls. This makes it so speedrun guilds donât favor it as much and the fact that its a bigger dps increase for rogues makes it much more appealing to give it to them instead.
Itâs getting SPICY.
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