Why did burning crusade happen?

The only reason I could see why it occurred was because blizz just wanted to hype the game and have illidan (fan favourite) for the cover.

It never made any sense why players wanted to kill illidan? Were they afraid he had sided with the burning legion (actually Kaelthas)? Legion you find out he was doing the opposite, prepping forces to go against the legion. Vashj was just trying to keep her people afloat on a dieing planet. Like if outland had been left alone would anything have threatened azeroth? Or would it just have progressed into Kaelthas turning on Illidan and a future expansion being about aiding illidan and his demon hunters against the burning legion.

Am I missing something or was burning crusade a blip with the lore which then forced them to correct from wod through shadowlands?

We needed a “big bad” and the Legion’s number came up on the “spinning wheel of choosing” they use to pick our foes. All RNG.

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The Legion was one of the few major enemies we didn’t have a raid for in classic, so they made sense for the first expansion.

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Illidans motto “the end justifies the means” made him a villain to everyone in outlsnd. It wasnt a flipflop, he needed to be stopped even if this ulterior motive was “good”. Did you play tbc?

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The lore wasn’t nearly as fleshed out then as it was now.

That’s basically the reason, lol.

By the time Wrath came around, I think they learned Illidan was killed off too quickly, because Arthas lasted much longer.

Hell, they brought back Illidan later on, alongside Kael, Arthas, and Vashj in SL.

Even Uther “came back” in some capacity.

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Allow me to give you an academic answer:

Why Did Players Kill Illidan in The Burning Crusade?

At the time, Blizzard framed Illidan as a “mad tyrant” ruling over Outland. The reasoning given to players was:

  1. Illidan Was Dangerous & Unstable – He ruled Outland with an iron fist, and his forces (the Illidari, naga, and fel orcs) were seen as a growing threat.
  2. Shattrath’s Army Declared Him an Enemy – The naaru-backed Sha’tar (with the Aldor and Scryers) portrayed Illidan as a villain who had to be overthrown.
  3. The Betrayal of Kael’thas – Kael’thas Sunstrider, who originally allied with Illidan, defected to Kil’jaeden, which made it seem like all of Illidan’s allies were now in league with the Legion.
  4. Illidan’s Growing Paranoia – He wasn’t directly attacking Azeroth, but his increasingly erratic and isolated rule made him seem like another power-hungry warlord.

At the time, the Burning Crusade storyline didn’t actually confirm whether Illidan was truly evil or if he had secretly been working against the Legion. So from a player perspective, we were just following orders from the Sha’tar, Maiev Shadowsong, and the factions that sent us to kill him.


The Big Retcon in Legion: Blizzard Fixes the Mistake

By Legion, Blizzard revealed the truth: Illidan was never the bad guy. Instead: :heavy_check_mark: He was secretly building a resistance against the Legion, using Outland as a staging ground.
:heavy_check_mark: He had been training the Demon Hunters (Illidari) to prepare for the inevitable invasion of Azeroth.
:heavy_check_mark: Kael’thas, not Illidan, was the true traitor, but by the time the players got involved, Illidan had already been falsely framed as an enemy by the Sha’tar, Maiev, and others.

Essentially, The Burning Crusade was a blip in the lore, and Legion had to reverse-engineer a justification for why players had been tricked into killing one of Azeroth’s greatest defenders.


Would Outland Have Been a Threat If Left Alone?

Probably not—at least not in the way The Burning Crusade originally framed it.
Had Outland been left alone:

  • Kael’thas would still have betrayed Illidan and tried to bring Kil’jaeden through the Sunwell.
  • Illidan would have fought against Kael’thas instead of the players doing it.
  • The Legion would still eventually invade Azeroth, but this could have been a later expansion where players aid Illidan instead of kill him.

This is exactly why Legion had to fix the mistake, bringing Illidan back as a hero and retconning TBC as a misunderstanding fueled by faction politics and manipulation.


Did Blizzard Retcon the Mistake from WoD Through Shadowlands?

Yes, Blizzard spent years correcting the consequences of The Burning Crusade’s story mistakes by:

  1. Warlords of Draenor (WoD) – Revisiting Draenor’s past and exploring orc and Legion history.
  2. Legion – Bringing back Illidan and revealing that players were wrong to kill him.
  3. Shadowlands – Confirming that Illidan’s soul wasn’t in the Shadowlands because he never truly died. His fate was intended to be different all along.

Edit: For clarity and accuracy.

Conclusion: Was The Burning Crusade a Blip in the Lore?

:heavy_check_mark: Yes, Burning Crusade forced a lore mistake where players fought Illidan instead of helping him.
:heavy_check_mark: Blizzard retconned it in Legion, admitting Illidan was never the real threat.
:heavy_check_mark: If left alone, Illidan vs. Kael’thas could have been a setup for an expansion where we fight alongside Illidan instead of against him.

Essentially, TBC wasn’t well thought out, and Blizzard had to spend years fixing it. If TBC had been written differently, we might have gotten a better version of Outland’s story that led directly into Legion without needing all the retcons.

Thank you ChatGPT for confirming all the facts here. :slight_smile:

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The Legion was supppsed to be the main antagonist of TBC, not Illidan, whom we always knew was separate from the Legion.

The TBC pre-patch was about the Legion invading Azeroth.

However, most quests in Hellfire Peninsula are about fighting the Illidari instead lol.

Xe’ra told us Illidan was actually a hero, while completely ignoring his Broken slaves until Shadowlands with Elder Naladu being in Revendreth for selling out his people to Illidan.

While I think TBC was excellent/S-tier, I do admit it seems kinda “out of place” in terms of storyline

I think Vanilla —> WoTLK —> X would’ve made more sense from a chronology perspective

And maybe they should’ve made Legion come immediately after TBC, since both deal with the burning legion. So basically Legion would’ve been like “TBC part 2”

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Yes, it did. I still want to kill Illidan.

Also don’t forget that Illidan was stealing all the water from the planet to blackmail the population into joining him, and he enslaved the Broken tribes (that’s why the Broken dungeon was called “Slave Pens”).

That’s bad stuff.

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I highly encourage you read the book “Illidan”
It’s also on audible.
Not only is it a great story, but it goes into both Illidan’s motivations and the player faction’s reasons for trying to stop them.
The fight scene at the end is awesome too, with all the different classes fighting

TLDR
Illidan became a victim of his own secrecy and misdirection and, to a lesser extent, his hubris

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I think the idea was for wow to have three expansions and you obviously wanted to save arthas and the scourge for last.

EDIT: I’m less excited about this now that I realize it was entirely written by ChatGPT. That’s what I get for not reading carefully enough. :frowning:

This is a super helpful summary, thanks! Where in Shadowlands do we find out that he was absorbed into the twisting nether? I swear I don’t notice 90% of what happens in the story of this game.

That whole thing was written by ChatGPT. It’s not true. We didn’t learn that in Shadowlands. He wasn’t absorbed. We saw his soul in the Twisting Nether back in Legion. In the DH order hall, there’s a quest where the Illidari communciate with him there. However, this exchange does take place in Shadowlands.

Kael’thas Sunstrider says: Illidan would have relished this. What fate do you suppose was chosen for him?
Baroness Vashj says: You assume he is both dead and mortal. I am not sure either is true.

It doesn’t tell us anything new, though.

This is not shown in Shadowlands. It’s the ending of Legion.

It’s a reasonable assumption, and one that has been supported by developer statements. Demons and fel-infused beings do not go to the Shadowlands upon death but instead return to the Twisting Nether unless permanently destroyed. Illidan, however, did not die—he willingly stayed behind to serve as Sargeras’s jailer in the Seat of the Pantheon, a realm beyond both the Twisting Nether and the Shadowlands. His ultimate fate remains unknown, but it is presumed to be eternal.

I just explained this lol.

TBC was the logical continuation of the RTS story. You can almost think of the first 2 expansions as an extended Warcraft 3 experience.

That’s actually incorrect.

We learn in Legion that Maiev took Illidan’s body to the Vault of the Wardens so that his spirit couldn’t go to the twisting nether.

In fact, his spirit didn’t really go anywhere until Gul’dan stole his body, then conducted a ritual to make it go to the twisting nether. From there, it got sent to Hellheim where we (the players) collect it and put it in Light’s Heart so that Khadgar could eventually release it back to Illidan’s body.

First off, I replied to that person before you did. Second, you posted wrong info that was AI-generated. I corrected it.

Also you, or maybe it was ChatGPT, said that it was a “reasonable assumption,” when it’s literally just what we already knew from Legion.

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AFAIK, Blizzard at the time didn’t think long-term with WoW cause they really didn’t think they would last so long with this game, so they just threw some stuff together that felt cool and had name recognition, without regard to long-term narrative repercussions.

and that’s why we ended up getting the Illidan redemption arc in Legion.

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Yeah, I’m a little annoyed at the ChatGPT stuff. I mean… it’s just video game, who cares, etc, but people should state at the top of the post that it’s just a bot spewing, and should be read verrrrry carefully. :frowning:

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