Why did Blizzard nerf alliance premades?

Lol and still refusing to respond the actual post.


It’s no secret blizzard has always favored horde at least a little. It’s like having a favorite child.

But to say the premades were removed to please horde and not because it was severely imbalanced is just you being bitter.


This. And not because blizzard hates alliance and loves horde. Alliance win rates ON TOP OF relatively instant queues is what made it game breaking.

If alliance were able to do premades now as they were upon release, I would welcome the better challenger. However horde are not at this point going to allow it to become a race, due to the queue times. Long games would result and many alliance would still be ignoring the HPH elephant in the room.

There’s no amount of logic and reasoning you can give to petty forum whiners to change their minds. They have chosen what they want to believe and will vehemently stick to it, even in the face of obvious evidence.


It is scary that there exist players who genuinely believe this tinfoil hat lunacy.

They used the term unfortunate behaviors not oops a bug.

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No, it didn’t. Because of match numbers, players were able to organise which queue to dodge. Now players have to accept before they see which game they are placed in. The penalty of dodging before entering is felt by the players inside, not out.

Blizzard doesn’t appease whining, on that merit alone. They consider their own data.

well, i gave you examples of it happening to one faction and being immediately fixed and happening to another and not being fixed. Like camping people going to BRD for 5 corpse runs is fine but camping people in the av cave is not, i see you’ve chosen to ignore the entire post instead of address why you think its “tinfoil hat lunacy”


That’s because your post was directly above his. If you try to quote an above post entirely, the system will automatically remove it as it’s pure clutter.

Right but queue dodging is a separate issue from matches starting without full teams. And just fixing that would have fixed that issue.


Right which you don’t know until you actually post hence it’s inconsistent and more reliable to just explicitly quote.


It’s cause and effect.

You can still premade if there’s enough less people queuing with you. Removing match numbers stopped players from refusing to accept.

You can see the arrow that they replied to, fam. Quoting is meant to be to break up your own post, not to show who you were replying to.

Right but that’s a separate issue from matches starting short players.

Simply fixing that would have fixed the actual problem, removing match numbers was only done to appease horde whiners.

The arrow does not consistently show up.

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Or maybe it was done to send a clear message that AV was not intended for Premades and thus does not allot you to queue for it as one?

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Only if the post is directly below it. It is consistent you don’t understand the process.

How? It’s not a separate issue, it was the solution.

Games should not be delayed because players wish to dodge to find another to stack in their favour.

more horde players, alliance were getting faster honor at the expense of horde players waiting in queue for hours.

conclusion? horde players are devs.

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So, blizzard said that it was in fact a bug and not premades forcing games to start undermanned.

The beginning of premades was toxic, but it eventually turned into a discord channel that equal minded people went to get a group to enhance their chances at winning.

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Not intended shouldn’t be fixed though if it was in vanilla. Like the warrior flask, its rarely complained about and is available to both factions so there isn’t a big outcry about it and it hasn’t been changed because it existed in this manner in vanilla right?

The AV premades could have been done in vanilla in precisely the same manner but they were changed because of complaints. Lots of things have. Its just rarer (or non existent) that something that makes things more difficult for alliance will ever be fixed (such as alliance ships vs horde zeppelins, cave locations etc)


That’s your own assumed understanding based on lack of information and your own bias.

There are many complaints towards diamond flask. It currently has it’s own thread with a large amount of posts.

BG numbers were removed because it was impacting those left behind when others dodged for another.

Exactly. Removing those aiming to land together wasn’t the primary intention.

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Why remove IDs then??