Why Classic will fail

[Voxplaga-ravencrest (Voxplaga)]

I could have sworn sunday was two days ago. Hate to break it to you. Vanilla/classic was buggy.

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

You’re just incapable of handling dissenting opinions

You don’t have an opinion, you have bait. It’s also not very good bait.

Like, we’re talking week old worms here. They don’t even look good.

[Hãnse-lightbringer]

Oh no. In my opinion you’ll have your share in Classic if not more.

So buckle up buttercup. The classic boards could possibly explode in the coming months. Lol.

If I’m wrong? /shrug. Then call it a success and everyone will go on their merry way.

H

[Hypêrspace-dalaran (Hypêrspace)]

reply to me then. i think its gonna be so popular, even in spite of what you said, that’ll still work. also consider:

1. more players buying subs, equals more people trying retail also.
2. more players buying subs, equals the game being profitable in spite of itself
3. more money earned and lessons learned, retail gets better.

[Nyaria-argent-dawn (Nyariá)]

Or… it will fail because it’s a 15 year old game, full of bugs, outdated graphics, almost zero content, and no planned future updates.

Classic is literally blizzards way of just slapping a classic server up to make money off it, because they had to keep shutting down old classic servers using their IP.

[Ragingcoup-lightbringer (Ragingcoup)]

They are intentionally preserving as many bugs as possible, which they add constantly to the “not a bugs” list. Because people wanted it as “pure” as possible, even if they didn’t make sense or negated mechanics.

Blizzard doesn’t have to do anything to artificially make the game worse, if the game fails, it will be because it was based on a model that was more hardcore and required more time and dedication to do anything.

People leave after two wipes on a boss in retail right now, you think those same people are going to spend hours on the same boss wiping?

After all the tears I’ve seen over how things hit too hard in nazjatar when raid ready gear is raining from the sky? In counter, I think we’ve all evolved as gamers and improved mechanically, so even classic won’t feel as difficult as it once was.

The tools we have for figuring out optimal gear, raids that won’t be new in any way and have already been figured out won’t present the epic challenge they presented before.

I’m gonna play it, because I enjoyed things back then and the time I’ve spent in beta. And people like me will enjoy it and it sounds like people who played this game a long time ago, and people who never played it I’ve heard wanting to try it.

Will it stick around as popular forever, probably not, but I bet at release it will have more people playing classic for at least a month or two than in retail. And that’s more cash flow in the pocket, they don’t need vanilla to point out people aren’t happy with class design or how the game was made, their subscription numbers and income show that.

I don’t believe in any way they’re shooting classic in the face to make retail look better, they’re just giving people what they’ve been asking for.

[Hypêrspace-dalaran (Hypêrspace)]

some things are good, no matter how old they are.

[Akston-bloodhoof (Akston)]

It won’t fail. It won’t end retail either.

It will have a huge population explosion to start, before settling down on a smaller, yet incredibly faithful player base.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

I don’t think it will fail. The Servers-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named were very popular. The biggest one and the one Blizz devs met with the “creators” had 800k accounts created and 150k active players.

[Doubledragon-sargeras]

I don’t know if Classic will fail or not, but this is the problem with your theory.

The subscription brings in a ton of revenue. Classic is a relatively cheap game to develop. The content was already done a long time ago. If it works and they get hundreds of thousands of people to pay $15/month for several years, that’s lots of almost pure profit. If it doesn’t work, they haven’t lost that much.

A flat subscription won’t nearly bring in as much revenue if it had paid apperance changes, race changes, name changes & server transfers. This is a business.

[quote=“Vodkanokers-bladefist, post:20, topic:232723”]
So your point is that Blizz is spending millions[/quote]

[citation needed]

reply to me then. i think its gonna be so popular, even in spite of what you said, that’ll still work. also consider:

1. more players buying subs, equals more people trying retail also.
2. more players buying subs, equals the game being profitable in spite of itself
3. more money earned and lessons learned, retail gets better.

The kind of player that will resub for classic will more than likely not be interested in retail.

Wow is more than likely making a lot more money due to microtransations rather than a flat 15$ a month even with a playerbase being 1/10th of what it once was.

Until Titanforging, RNG & timegating get removed they haven’t learned. They can release another store mount to pad metrics at the end of a quarter.

[Kurddran-stormrage]

Or… it will fail because it’s a 15 year old game, full of bugs, outdated graphics, almost zero content, and no planned future updates.

Classic is literally blizzards way of just slapping a classic server up to make money off it, because they had to keep shutting down old classic servers using their IP.

So… first you say classic will fail because it’s old with bad graphics, then you concede that Blizzard is forced to make Classic primarily due to the demand for it.

Really?

[Briselody-lightnings-blade (Briselody)]

A flat subscription won’t nearly bring in as much revenue if it had paid apperance changes, race changes, name changes & server transfers. This is a business.

Sub worked fine for the game for many years before they added store services.

The kind of player that will resub for classic will more than likely not be interested in retail.

Opinion and conjecture.

Wow is more than likely making a lot more money due to microtransations rather than a flat 15$ a month even with a playerbase being 1/10th of what it once was.

More conjecture.

Until Titanforging, RNG & timegating get removed they haven’t learned.

Opinion.

They can release another store mount to pad metrics at the end of a quarter.

Trolling.

[Hypêrspace-dalaran (Hypêrspace)]

A flat subscription won’t nearly bring in as much revenue if it had paid apperance changes, race changes, name changes & server transfers. This is a business.

that’s okay, they have retail for that. if anything, it’ll give games that like to emulate them the crazy idea that there are two different types of playerbase. people with lots of time, and people with limited time. and you would do well to not try to force them to play the same game, as people with lots of time will get bored and people with limited time will be overwhelmed.

[Nyaria-argent-dawn (Nyariá)]

No, that’s not what I was saying.

I was saying, blizzard was tired of people using their IP, and them having to constantly defend their IP by shutting things down. So they simply made a tourist mode so they would be the ones profitting, and they didn’t have to constantly keep shutting down private servers each time it popped up.

I’m sure there is some nostalgia, or curiosity around old wow. I’m not one of the people that suffer from that. I know exactly how much of a dumpster fire Wow classic was. There was just simply not many other options at the time.

[Doubledragon-sargeras]

Sub worked fine for the game for many years before they added store services.

Because they had 10-12 million players.

Opinion and conjecture.

Classic is a completely different game than retail and people that quit retail won’t all of a sudden come back and play it

Opinion.

Timegating, RNG & titanforging are the biggest complaints I’ve seen about retailwow next to pathfinder.

Trolling.

No you just can’t handle dissenting opinions and approach ideological opposition in a calm, rational manner.

[Mcstabbing-illidan (Mcstabbing)]

If I’m wrong? /shrug. Then call it a success and everyone will go on their merry way.

Oh lol im just waiting bud. Im waiting on someone to flame the classic forums stating

“Blizz ur game iz brok! I cant roll a dwarf shamanz or Troll Paladinz!!”

I am prepared my friend

I miss the game i fell in love with all those years ago. No tmogs. We all looked like rainbows. Having Thunderfury caused peeps to flee. No crossrealm "you actually had to GET ALONG with your server or be labled as a troll. “Anonymity only goes soo far in a couple thousand vs hundreds of thousands”

People were just more friendly in my opinion back then. I hope it comes back. Heres to hope

[Popps-aerie-peak]

It proves current game philosophy is sub par which is reputation damaging.

I used to think this as well. This is why I thought they’d never release vanilla servers.

But they did. They already crossed that bridge. They’ve admitted that, for a portion of the playerbase, the old game is more fun than the newer game.

Having already done that, they’re not going to now come out with a bad product. Your idea that putting out a good product would somehow be more reputation-damaging than putting out a bad product is counterintuitive to put it mildly.

[Hypêrspace-dalaran (Hypêrspace)]

i think it’s a huge win-win. so many happy people on classic. its just a world of its own.

[Doubledragon-sargeras]

i think it’s a huge win-win. so many happy people on classic. its just a world of its own.

Yes, and you’re mistaken if people aren’t going to try and tap into this market with microtransations that plague retail.

[Ravenmayne-moon-guard]

“Classic is so buggy!”

Yeah. Because that WAS Classic. The game was always buggy back then. Sliding corpses, broken quests, Rogues stuck in Vanish stance. You want the Classic experience, honey this is it. Warts and all.