Ragnaros was a boss in Vanilla World of Warcraft who received a revival in *Cataclysm’*s Firelands raid. It was not a particularly tough fight for any unfair or broken mechanics (although it certainly wasn’t a walk in the park). It was tough because it took most guilds more than 20 minutes to complete, though it wasn’t one of the hardest raid bosses in WoW.
20 minutes is a long time for mistakes to happen, and even one or two party members’ deaths could jeopardize the fight in the long run. Focusing for a third of an hour on pinpoint precision and timing is tiring. It’s no surprise many guilds simply stopped keeping track of attempts out of tedium.
One would have to be pretty naive to believe they weren’t going to do some sort of post-WOTLK progression. Even in the announcement they show all the intro cinematics in a rewind. Though I agree Cata Classic probably wouldn’t have been the best title. Maybe Cata Progression, idk.
Yeah but, the people who are really loyal to one iteration of the game are crazy. You see it on the forums here. It’s cool to prefer one and want to only play that one, but you have people wanting a “pure” or “peak” WOW experience and get really defensive about anything but their favourite. You see it a lot with Vanilla and somewhat with WOTLK.
All this though is the biggest sign that Cata Classic is actually wanted. People were acting like this since Vanilla but only in WOTLK have people completely given up on the open world. Northrend is dead than anywhere Outland used to be back in TBC. However that’s what the community wants. We got RDF and we’ll get LFR and these systems which were lamented back in their heyday will either continue the retailing of WOW or prove to be the system the modern subs want out of their Classic game, only time will tell. Either way, the people will get what they want.
What is wrong with transmog? I think only the craziest of people have issues with transmog. WOTLK has to take the cake for some of the ugliest sets in WOW. Ever second set looks awful, but why can’t I transmog? Because people won’t be able to see my ugly armor and think 'Wow that guy is geared"? If people want to know if I’m geared for content they can inspect or check my GS out, or maybe see the title KINGSLAYER and think “Yeah he looks like a farmer with a shovel, but he killed the Lich King”. As for Flying in Azeroth, it doesn’t matter now since open world PVP doesn’t exist anymore.
It’s because dragon soul (I think that’s what it’s called) was out for a year. It would be like if TOGC lasted a year in WOTLKC.
I think they’re actually doing quite well having seen interviews from them over the past year and a bit. They’re trying to please old players, new players, nostalgia players, no lifers, and some of the biggest manchild community on the internet all at once and seem to actually like the property on a personal level. I am certain the WOW token came down from up high because they don’t seem corporate or Millennial college cringe as other teams in games tend to be.
The people claiming cata is like retail either haven’t played Dragonflight or they have very cloudy memories. Im guessing the latter.
This community is going to have their socks knocked off when they realize how much of a gem Cata really is. Its the best expansion by a country mile. It feels like WoTlk+. They will soon learn.
See the problem lies in, they have to force people into things “or the population is too spread out” is their line of thinking. They would rather lose players than appeal to different preferences. Unless, they lose too many, they hope people will move on regardless of how they feel about it.
I mean it’s valid if splitting the pop won’t support either side. You can love cata or wrath all day but if the population doesn’t support both then they both die. Better to thin the herd and let it survive
I don’t understand problem for your kind. Classic+ (SoD) was biggest announcement on Blizzcon. Just go enjoy your vanilla on era or classic+. People who want to go forward will go forward. Its not for you to decide what I’m going to play. Yeah. Cata wasn’t meant for you. I’m OK with it. Era, SoD, Hardcore, Cata. Sound like very diverse option for player base.
I’m not bothered if they reintroduce Cataclysm, but what does concern me is the potential loss of Wrath servers. The primary reason people wanted Classic back wasn’t to replay each expansion, but rather to experience the best versions of WoW. Cataclysm marked the point where things began to decline. If you examine the population numbers on private servers, WotLK consistently had a high player count, while any expansion after WotLK had significantly lower numbers. This is because those versions of the game simply didn’t resonate with players.
If they proceed to Cataclysm without maintaining WotLK servers, Classic will become a ghost town.
I specifically returned to Classic WotLK to gear up multiple characters, allowing me to play whenever I wanted without worrying about being under-geared each new season. I appreciated the concept of investing time once to gear up, and then having these characters ready to go. It would feel as though all that effort was wasted the moment Cataclysm launches.
