Well the puppet masters want to divide us and destroy our ability to climb. What’s so super sad is watching kids scratch from the roof top begging “govern me harder daddy” for the tyranny we see more of every day!!!
You mean systems need working class people to work? wild lol
Of course you know him, Opalshine. You’ve argued with him many times.
The worse is when they constantly spam emotes at you, I get an emote or two especially if a player gets 1v1 but spamming it when they 4v1 you is kind of cringe.
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You literally responded in this thread. Rent free would imply you were brought up in an unrelated thread.
Once again, you show you really don’t have any clue.
Thanks Girth. That explains why I saw the low honor levels in epic bgs. That was all I quickly tested.
So <30 Honor Level (new player/account):
-solo, means separate Q in reg random BGs.
-solo, means regular epic BGs
-solo, means regular rated
-group, means regular with all.
greater than 30 Honor Level means regular grouping in all.
The only difference for <30 Honor Levels is regular solo Q BGs…where, honestly any premade group of 5 (+ if sync’d) will have a large impact.
Fantastic!
Now if I could just find out why some of my toons last season saw their leveling gear scaled to 350 or whatever it was…and if it is happening this season. ANyone seen any of that for a new 70 toons?
Thanks!
Right over your head huh bud haha
first day with blizzard? they basically fired everyone except for the people who needed to go. so there is really no pvp devs availble to fix anything. basically they just slap hotfixes on everything as it gets balanced for m+
1 pvp player for every 35 m+ players.
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Bro …forgot a zero. 1 pvp player for every 350 carebears. M+ is the easiest thing to sell carry’s for so it generates the greatest amount of token sales. PvP can drown in a swamp of bat pee……no one gives a crud about it. Tokens and carebears my guy! Tokens and carebears
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I think its more cause other games do pvp way better than wow.
Its probably cause like i told inemia pvp in wow is just badly designed badly managed and the community for pvp in this game is maybe one of the worst i’ve seen sparing only league and cod. And its only getting worse by the day.
As more people throw integrity to the wind and prioritize short term feel good moments and stomps at the expense of the game modes long term viability.
The pvp community in this game has built their whole indentities around gatekeeping it in every single avenue possible to get into it.
Twinks and party syncers exploiting a broken scaling and talent system in low level pvp.
Premades in every bracket of casual 70 pvp driving casuals away for their unearned ego’s
Boosters and 18 year player sweaties in rated smurfing on alts driving people away from that.
And then they wonder how we have got to the 1-35 ratio. M+ does in fact have some gatekeepers but they are at really high keys. People can do low level keys and learn the game before having someone berating them for every mistake they make.
It’s up to the “pvp community” to change their ways its not on blizzard or anyone else to try and ressurect it by pouring resources into it that it hasnt earned they need to make it more attractive to get into and get some actual participation happening first.
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Among the MMOs, WoW does PvP the best. I’ve tried GW2, FF14, ESO, SWTOR, Rift, Wildstar, Age of Conan, and some others I am forgetting. Some of those games are no longer active.
So u can complain, but you are not getting better MMO PvP anywhere else in the world. That’s just the way it is. If you have specific suggestions: Game Menu::Support::Give Feedback. Or start a post in General Forums. But, the fact is WoW is the best, has been the best for a very long time, and will probably continue to be the best.
I’m not talking FPS, or BR PvP, whatever other types…just MMO PvP. If someone thinks PvP is actually better in any of those MMO’s I listed above, or ones I forget, say so. But you’re wrong.
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Point well taken. Heavy sync queuers (the kind who never queue solo or are willing to face getting run over by premades themselves) have more easy-win knowledge about epic BGs because they learn from within their communities and from being able to play from the side with such heavy advantage. It’s easier to observe and learn what works well when you’re basically just rolling over the other team.
Conversely IMO pugs have gotten worse in terms of map knowledge, e.g. in IoC insisting docks or running bombs will work. But maybe it is more about there being fewer of the skillful solo/pug players willing to play vs. premades so pugs are left with the very unknowledgeable pug players.
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Yeah and all that only speaks loud volumes about how bad the pvp in those games must be.
If even the sorry state of wow pvp right now is better by far. Goes to show you that mmos are and have always been pve games first and foremost.
If ur not looking for MMO PvP, what type of PvP are you looking for?
Pretty fair assessment.
Community is toxic. But this game has been trash at the PvP level since you know who took over.
This game is just dying of old age homie.
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No I think the playerbase is doing that.
The game is trying its best to evolve and survive and sadly some of the players are still trying to drag it into the past instead of evolving with it and games at large ie condemning it to a slow death.
Disagree. Play tons of different games, mostly fps, and found some great communities in WoW this last year.
PvP gaming style lends itself to late night casual queuing with lots of chats and good music during wait times. There’s a lot to like and enjoy.
Yeah it’s probably nice when you are running premades against a team with no chance.
And also I am not just talking about the 500 people who are the only ones left actually playing bgs.
I’ve seen how toxic communities get and how fast when there is even a possibility of losing.
That and there are barely any communities in real life anymore for good reason so idk why people decided to try and resurrect them in the game.
Well I think you are placing the sole responsibility of wows culture and current state in PvP players. But that’s not accurate. PvP players haven’t seen a new bg map in years! Balancing has been pitiful at best. If you look at a lot of the current state of PvP half of of it is unplayable. Epics? I haven’t qued up for an epic due to the fact that Que synchs ruin the game. Same with randoms. Blitz is the best thing they have going but class imbalance ruins that. It’s not all just players man it’s the fact that blizz has let PvP deteriorate into what you have now. And players are sick of it
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