Why can't I just play normal random bg rules against Pugs as a pug?

Players have definitely gotten worse in epic BGs. Pugs really do only know how to zerg. Heavily synced premades are the same - but typically if their lead is good the team can apply tactics/strat well vs. another premade.

“Bad matchmaking algorithm” is a nice way of saying “pugs should not face synced premades.” That, and matchmaking should match number of heals and tanks.

Why not just place premades against each other exclusively… and with a lil note that says “hey your facing a premade of x, you also have x premade on your team. GL” at least then people would be aware of the circumstances of the BG.

The lack of response from Blizz regarding Epic Syncers makes me think that a couple of them perform the act themselves tbh

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Even if premades werent a thing anymore, you’d still cry about something else, as seen in your arena thread.

I don’t know you but you seem like the type of person that would try to shut down anyone who has an opposing opinion to yours. I dont respect that.

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You seem like the type of person to not understand anything you’re talking about, which puts you right in the same boat with Thaedreu.

Point proven bud. I respect your opinion <3 I may not agree with it but you seem kinda lame :frowning:

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There’s opinions and there’s stupidity. Thaedreu’s “takes” are the latter. The only point that was proven was mine.

Exhibit A for the jury:

Did you really just quote me some random post from someone else’s history ?

Out of you and Thaedreu you seem to have the problem. Or an internet crush of some kind. Either way bro… calm it down.

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Well you can make game suggestions in game: Game Menu::Support::Submit Feedback.

I do think at some point Blizz will do something. but what or when that is…/whoKnows

Nah. I think Blizz already knows. I would not be surprised if a couple of them participate in the ole cheating sync q stuff

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You’re out here simping for them and I provided a thread showing that their “opinions” aren’t worth anything. That’s all.

You being too obtuse to process that is your fault not mine.

Also your main is a MM hunter so that’s another strike lmao

According to you who is a random Internet nobody.

Whats wrong with that ?

I fail to see your point here, it seems you have a bit of an issue with a number of forum members who have different opinions to yours and you try to shift the perspective by talking about class preferences etc etc.

Again if you did just Check Pvp TO make your comment. That is imo incredibly pathetic

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“Random Internet nobody”- Random Internet nobody making another thread in a forum inundated with threads about the same topic.

I have an issue with unintelligent goons who excuse their lack of ability by projecting about issues that don’t exist outside of their microscopic point of view.

I did a Check PvP to make sure you weren’t trying to boost your thread on alts, because there are several people who spam the forums about premades that have been caught doing it.

Blizzard isn’t going to do anything about people premading in an MMO. Your only recourse is to vote with your wallet because anything else is just bleating into the wind.

I assume you mean a more recent trend, overall I’m impressed by how many people seem to know what they’re doing in epics. Maybe I’ve played with sync queuers and didn’t realize it though if I notice one on my team I leave so they’re down a healer. If it is a more recent trend I’d suggest at least the aura of premade groups played a significant role in people leaving which would put it back in the category of queue issues.

Seriously, people are better at the game than at any other time in my experience, if people seem worse it’s because of the skill gap not any loss in skill.

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yes ive tested it and players under hl 30 are only seperate from the general population if they solo que regular randoms. queing for epics they get placed into games with everyone else. rated content in games with everyone else. if they group with anyone above hl 30 same thing.

I’ve tried to tell people that new players getting thrown into games with honor level 2ks once they hit 30 with no other bracket seems really dumb. But evidently that’s a hot take.

aww I live in someone’s head rent free haha

That doesn’t make sense lol but of course now you want to be “the victim” haha

Except…… capitalism has a ladder for people to climb. It is by far better than any other system created to date.

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Point is all 3 of those systems literally do not function without a obediant underclass of people.

And according to a increasing number of people that ladder is getting increasingly harder to climb if its even possible at all for the majority.

Mainly cause the people already at the top are pushing the ladder away. Sending everyone tumbling back down to the bottom like you were scaling a wall.

People 45+ are holding that economic ladder like Romans holding the wall during the siege of rome.

Or the 300 at thermopylae lmao.