serious question, outside of premades and all the other issues with bgs in general. honor is really not hard to come by you cant do that much with it once you get sockets.
why this late in a season are we camping graveyards in bgs?
is this fun? there isnt skill invovled, you are not getting real rewards. if your ahead enough to sit at a GY and spamm kill the desync spawns so its always outnumbered in your favor. just end
why are we doing this?
just get the flag, cap the bases, end and go next, right?
but still any game ahead ends up sit GY and farm honor with nothing its used for really?
But from my experience years ago.
As a twink, I stopped camping Gyards because it became so boring. I would just wander around the bg and dance u til it ended.
Nowadays, at lvl 80, where gear is equally viable to all players, I camp gyard when our team is able to.
The reason is you will have the opposite team afking, and in turn stronger players may join, so I will do it to ensure a victory.
but it does not ensure victory it prolongs games? ensuring vitory would be capping teh flags while its free. it would be taking all the bases asap. GY camping is a wierd thing because i dont think most players even enjoy it it just has become a thing from when honor meant something and you got a ton more for farming kills. now it just is teh auto pilot reaction instead of just ending
I agree with you.
It’s one method to stop players coming down the Gy… it’s not guaranteed, but is a strong advantage.
In the bg I believe it’s called twin peaks. We were camped and I couldn’t break free to chase the flag carrier or to help ours.
Being crippled is a huge disadvantage. So we lost easily as the alliance was super strong.
I remember someone said there should be an option to choose where we can respawn to avoid gy camping. If that gets implemented one day, I would be happy.
I know i suggested that once in a post as well at least you wouldnt be just locked down in a single place.
not really offering solution asi am not a game designer but its weird the current strat. is this and blizz is ok with it. I generally arena but BGS are so toxic when this happens it makes the few i que a coin flip on whether its fun
I think there’s probably something wrong/unhealthy with the psychology of people who like to camp GYs. don’t try to understand it, because healthy people can’t. It’s like trying to understand people who enjoy pulling legs off of bugs and stuff like that.
Honor has nothing to do with it. You barely get any honor from kills, you get it from wins. Honor means basically nothing to premades at this point
You camp the graveyard to avoid people getting out. From the perspective of the people getting gy camped: if you want out of the graveyard, what’s the first thing most people are going to do once they get out? They’re going to go prolong the game by trying to return flags/cap notes/cap carts etc behind the gy camp. If you don’t let them out of the graveyard, they can’t do that
It’s very rare premades will sit in the graveyard and not try to end the game. It happens, but extremely rare.
What isn’t rare is people who are getting GY camped get out of the gy, skirt around everyone to mess with the flag carrier or a node which just needlessly delays the game
It’s just a strategy to get the game to end faster. Get out of the boring game where the other team folded and into a game with players who can actually play
It’s annoying when you’re being farmed, but it’s the oldest thing that happens in every pvp game when one team is much better than the other.
It’s just it’s even more unbearable now, because every spec has so many survivability tools that you can’t even get a tiny victory out of it. You need to overcome their defensives and then healer cooldowns and then prevent them using their mobility to retreat and come back fully healed.
It’s also exasperated by the fact that modern WoW is one of the least fun games to lose at, imo. Because when you are being outplayed, it’s not very intuitive why. It just feels like the enemy is cheating. Unlike how in shooters you can appreciate if someone’s aim is good. While in WoW, unless you record yourself or stuff, it’s hard to gauge in real time why you’re not succeeding.
Just because it happens does not mean it’s common or even an issue. I get gy camped too, and not a single time in two expansions has anyone gy camped me with the flag (for example) while not capping. I’ve seen it, I know it’s a thing, but complaining/bringing something up as an issue that rarely happens is pointless
If you DO run into it, then just go next. Who cares, it’s a game and it rarely happens
I also solo queue and also get GY camped. It still doesn’t happen
Like I said, just because something has happened doesn’t mean it’s common or an issue. Of course you’re going to remember the time it happened, but you aren’t remembering the 1000 other times it didn’t happen
Camping the graveyard doesn’t bother me as long as they aren’t purposefully delaying the game to do so. I still think every graveyard should have that invulnerability bubble and multiple ways out though. That’s just level design 101.