That is not my opinion. Players not wanting to travel and pay 50g and thinking that’s better because thats more convenient for them personally than what was specifically designed to exist is the opinion here. Get it straight. TBC didnt have dual specs ergo its remaster doesnt need dual specs. 100% fact. You cant beat that which is why youre trying to best me. You cant.
Thats a laugh because you havent come within 1000 yards of my argument and you didnt even have the guts to confront me head on and instead “wondered why no one called me out”. I took your cowardly bait and gave you the argument you needed to tackle. You didnt.
Which is also their subjective opinion which is equal to every other opinion. Like the opinion that its better to leave TBC alone. To invoke a change you need to come up with something more than your opinion - an actual real reason backed with something other than a subjective opinion. You cant. TBC dual specs = ignorable request. Youre free to dream however.
All we have to come up with is a reasonable argument that it’s in the best interests of the players according to the blizzard devs. I don’t care what you think we need to come up with since you don’t have any power to make a decision. Since you have no power your opinions don’t need to be addressed and can simply be ignored. I only care about the devs since they have the power to make that decision.
The poll makers set those polls up in a way they were heavily exploitable. They likely did that to skew the numbers in favor of dual spec. And I only voted twice on a few of the pills, just to check their integrity. None of them had anything outside of basic IP tracking to stop multiple votes from one person. Which is easily bypassed…
Once again no they’re not, world buffs functioned exactly the same as they did back in the day. And people quite accurately predicted exactly how that would play out in classic.
So yeah, we know the mechanics of dual spec, we know the classic player base, and we can very say yes we do want dual spec in TBC Classic.
No, it’s your opinion that something isn’t wanted or needed. That’s literally what you think. When you apply the same logic to seal of blood, it shows that the logic you use is bad. People wanted seal of blood on alliance, and they got it. It wasn’t needed, as was proven by TBC being completed by alliance.
Uh, no. I just do other things than spend times on the forum waiting for you to post so I can destroy your arguments. I was hoping someone else would have done it for me but you’re beneath their attention.
No, this is wrong. Some opinions are unimportant to the developers, some opinions are important to the developers. You, corpseknife, have literally no idea what is important or not until it’s been stated. It very well may be incredibly important to them, and they just haven’t decided yet, or it’s an internal battle that has lost 51% to 49%, which doesn’t remove the importance of people’s input.
Nobody needs to be convinced of dual spec, it existed in WoW.
What needs to be thoroughly discussed is what form “dual spec” could take in TBCC without making it such that people are forced to use it for min-max purposes.
A lot of solutions have been suggested, if you’re interested in learning about them you can read any of the dual spec threads, the ideas are listed in each of them pretty much.
At the end of the day, even when all of the anti-dual spec people have all of their criteria met with compromises to “dual spec,” they just revert to #nochanges instead of admitting that they aren’t really against it in the first place.
Case in point, redheadchild. He supports dual spec from a player/spec profile perspective, he just wants it to still cost money. Compromise!
All it means is they haven’t gotten around to adding it yet, they clearly don’t care about #nochanges on general principle anymore and they haven’t said anything about dual spec on way or the other.
Duder, HvH BGs wasn’t in TBCC until it was.
alliance having seal of blood wasn’t in TBCC, until it was.
all of the changes weren’t in TBC until they were.
That’s a terrible argument.
Did you express your opinion and get them to make all the changes that they’ve made so far? If so, I tip my hat to thee.
Yes, there were thousands of posts about honor being buffed, and it got buffed. There were thousands of complaints about MQG and engi belt in arena. There were thousands of complaints that seal of blood being horde only was unfair. There were thousands of complaints that horde couldn’t queue for BGs without an hour+ wait.
Part of the reason for this is because addons already save the profiles. I don’t see a point in it not being baseline when addons already do it. But I still think the inconvenience of changing specs (the gold cost) should still be there to discourage constant swapping.
Right, in other words, we agree fully on the implementation of a dual spec/profile change to allow people to easily swap between two specs, at a max of 50g each swap, while in a rest area.
Great compromise and solves a lot of the problems.
Once that’s been done, tested and working, these poor boiz can argue their empty wallets to their hearts content while the folks whose hindrances to play were purely convenience vs money are now satisfied, out there having fun in multiple specs.
There’s a reason Blizzard has purposefully ignored dual spec requests. It’s because it’s based entirely in bad faith arguments and entitled personal wants.
/shrug people have explained clearly why they want dual spec which given that blizzard has clearly stated and acted on QoL changes being on the table for TBC Classic is not bad faith. What’s bad faith is the people pretending that there’s actually an in game problem with dual spec instead of just admitting to just wanting a pure nostalgia experience.