The TBC Classic developers are incompetent:
No the consensus is that alot people want it and care less about the majority that dont
*Minority.
Fixed that for you.
Show me the numbers or it’s made up
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Alliance didn’t need seal of blood
we didn’t need hvh battlegrounds
we didn’t need 58 boosts
we didn’t need t5 nerfed early
we didn’t need mqg and engi belt to be removed from arena
we didn’t need batching removed
we didn’t need hunter macros broken
we didn’t need input broadcast software banned
we didn’t need battle chicken nerfed
we didn’t need extra loot from p2
we didn’t need pvp items from tier tokens
Lots of things weren’t needed, they were wanted - and people got them. This is the fundamental flaw with the entire notion of ‘need’.
Typically in a discussion, when your primary argument has been proven to be meaningless due to facts being provided, people would move onto other reasons when they are against something.
The important part of dual spec is the ability to swap between profiles (hence the name dual spec), not the reduction in gold cost (to me). This is something that does not break anything, it doesn’t mess up the economy, or force people in raids to swap between bosses - it just enables players to fill gaps where they are needed so they can play the game how they want, when they want.
So we’ve removed the gold cost from the discussion, who cares. Gold is easy to get - I agree (and always have).
Let’s talk about why people are against being able to easily switch between talent/UI/gear profiles as a part of the default blizzard UI instead, and resolve one thing at a time.
Once that has been introduced, then people can complain about spending gold - and the discussion can be revolved around gold sinks and the economy vs players being willing or able to swap specs without having to redo their entire UI, or travel all the way to a remote location and use a hearth - and re-do talent trees (for no real game impacting reason).
And before you suggest addons - Blizzard has clearly stated that their intent all along was to not want these types of addons to be necessary, they just hadn’t gotten it figured out until wrath. Now all of these QoL features are included (and have been for a long time).
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If all those features you claim are QoL changes and improve gameplay and should just automatically be implemented because it’s already been done and fixed the nonproblem, then why did they re-release classic and why are you not playing the version of the game that has the features your asking for, why did I have to wait 6 months into tbc to get a guild bank or why don’t dead 1 sided realms have access to cross realm grouping, or why don’t we have pet and mount storage, they gave us key bags early, GTFO and go play retail or wait for wrath, Don’t Retail my Classic experience. Lousy retail carpet baggers
Yeah, this isn’t what the intention of the TBCC lead designer, Patrick Dawson said in his interview in February 2021 before TBCC was released. Have you by chance read the entirety of that interview?
Your problem appears to be that you lack clear understanding and definitions of the words you use as descriptors as a part of your arguments.
Having a genuine discussion and being honest during the debate wins over more people to your side. Otherwise, you just look incredibly ignorant, and those who support these terrible arguments do as well as you crash and burn to everyone else who understands the english language.
Nope, don’t care. I’ve been telling you all why I don’t think it belongs. ME MYSELF AND I alone, no one else, but this this guy’s opinion, well now that I’ve made that clear to all the kindergarteners in the room we can move on to serious problems like pet battles and drunk pandas
If you don’t care, why do you spend so much time in these threads?
I’m sorry that you’re unable to articulate your position in a way that actually makes sense without resorting to ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, or other fallacies - it’s a part of growing up that you’ll come across folks in life who are better at debate, or are more informed on a topic than you. That’s when you should start doing research before chiming in - to make sure you’re not making a fool of yourself.
Also- proofreading your posts before clicking the submit button is probably a good idea as well - make sure you’re addressing questions that are asked and doing your best to not evade difficult questions. This creates the sense that your opinion should be respected or taken seriously. When you consistently avoid answering tough questions, you become irrelevant to the conversation, and will be branded as a troll.
Umm I am a troll, some words of wisdom, It’s not the player or the spec, it’s how you play the spec. I’ve been playing Rpgs for over 35 years and dual spec is not true to form for character building,
So you’re pro changes, just against people changing their minds about what specializations they want to play - as some sort of required RP? Are you aware how talents work? Did you know that no matter how much I want to crusader strike a mob, if I don’t have 41 points in retribution that I’m unable to do so? There’s no amount of character building that gives me the ability to tank raids in a ret spec, even if I RP the heck out of it, and wear full protection gear. You seem to not be up to date on what TBCC is, or how people play TBCC compared to how they played TBC.
You seemed to have skipped over the question in my previous post - did you read the interview with Patrick Dawson from February of 2021?
Yeah, I don’t want to do it that badly. I get that some people love doing simple repetitive tasks over and over again. It’s still exciting to you to fish for a monstrous felblood snapper even though you’ve done it a couple hundred times and it doesn’t bother you at all that you can’t even eat or cook any fish you catch while fishing for it. You’d probably be fine if 90% of the quests were eliminated and those left were all repeatable. You’d happily level just doing the same quests over and over again like you love doing those dailies. Some people are born for that type of work. I didn’t do it in my real life work for money and I’m not going to do it in a game I just play for fun.
Funny how you don’t see the irony here.
This is the another canard you people like to spread. There are 10 times as many feature changes in retail then the few classic players have asked for. Because classic players are asking for a few changes doesn’t mean we want to play a game that has a few dozen changes. You’re playing a classic game that has a few changes from retail. Does that mean it’s the same to you as playing retail?
Yes clearly the sole difference between TBC Classic and Retail is dual spec.
And by that logic if you hate dual spec so much you could simply go back to classic.
Chill. Wrath is coming. Youll probably have LFD and dual specs at launch. Its only like a year off. Its all good.
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Yeah, you really are. Not just here but on every thread you post. You even started a topic "Boosturds" and you’re nasty throughout the thread. When it comes to trading insults you start it. Then you wonder why we didn’t bother to rationally discuss your list. You’re not capable of having a civil conversation so we’re not gonna invest our time attempting it with you.
So you like Boosturd spam?
right now theres more spam about raids and arena them actual boost, and Im on faerlina so if one msg every like 10 sec bother you so much I think its a you problem