Why are you torturing the horde?

The focus seems to be on Night Elves, not necessarily the Alliance for this arc. It would explain why, despite this being The Emerald Dream, that the other druids are taking a back seat here.

Yes, because the writers since the beginning just basically wrote Tauren druids as tagalongs to the night elves. I mean, they even admitted it with the intro stuff prior to Cata for the paladins and priests that they had done that.

This is a created world, if they wanted to add that stuff they easily could, but they never had, just all druids take a back seat to the CC.

I didn’t feel like crafting a peer reviewed article addressing every single point. What I stated was long enough on travel alone. :man_shrugging:

The article really downplays the useful tools Shamans brought to the table in PvE and PvP. It also easily overlooks how overpowered Horde racials were in comparison to the Alliance ones. Despite the imbalance in the Alterac Valley map, Horde could still easily crush the Alliance. In my experience, Horde quite often did win Alterac Valley. Maybe it had something to do with serious PvP players trying to min-max their character and choose the faction that had better options?

The one thing the article did get right was at the end where they think that maybe there is no bias. Some things sucked for Horde, but some things they did have better (travel and racials in my opinion).

Some legit complaints in there, but I think the most amusing part of that is the author thinking OG AV was slanted towards Alliance because of the layout.

There’s a fiery charred area up north. You will survive

So once again the only faction that currently and actively uses that symbol is Alliance, who uses it on every single faction NPC (of every race). The only faction that used it in Warcraft was the Alliance side. But OK dude.

So when did Horde actively and without any resistance stomp mud puddles in everyone wearing the color blue? Was that in Wrath why you took over UC and “let” us keep it? Was that in MoP when you raided Org and “let” us keep it? Was that in BfA when you destroyed UC or raided our faction city? Legion basically forgot horde existed for most of it.

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Thrall’s getting Mike Wazowski’d, lol.

The bankers say “for the hoard!”

Fear ward.

Yes, some specifically picked examples that leave out Horde problems (like the 20 minute druid flight to TB, the difficulty of connecting northern to southern EK fps. etc) to ignore all the other points. And some of those points, like the Zeppelin one are incorrect.

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Alliance characters got dragged around by Thrall for an entire expansion or more.

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That’s the point, Horde players are angry that the Alliance dares to, in fact, exist. If Wrathgate didn’t happen, Alliance would not have had to visit UC. If Garrosh didn’t happen, neither does SoO. And Sylvanas? She made every Alliance player look like incompetents and every Horde player into utter monsters.

Horde aggressionists are just salty that they keep experiencing the consequences of their actions. How dare the Alliance strike back after the Horde instigates! They should be lucky we only slaughtered some of their military!

EDIT: And my point with the logo is just that, it’s a logo. If you get to brush off the Orc Statue, you don’t then get to invoke the sword and shield.

What expansion was that?

Will of the Forsaken
Devouring Plague
Blood Fury
Hardiness
Berserking
War Stomp

You are correct. That is a mistake. What other Horde problems were there in terms of travel? Anything other than flight paths? I made points about quest hubs that Horde doesn’t have to deal with as much as Alliance does.

That is directly contradictory to what you said earlier. Most of the history of WoW is Horde running it’s month and the alliance putting it in it’s place, followed by Alliance mains complaining that 100% of the story is not geared towards them.

Also you don’t get to tell me what I can and cannot do because YOU are the one arguing that the symbol currently and only ever used to represent the Alliance doesn’t represent the Alliance.

The problem is that the Horde story that Horde players want is the destruction of the Alliance, a player faction. No kidding they never get what they want because what they want is impossible in the mechanical sense.

And you were the ones shrugging off the Orc Statue as decrying the notion that Blizzard might, in fact, like the Horde long before you decided to bring in the Sword and Shield as an example of ‘Alliance Bias.’

Kinda like how most of the raids are very convenient to the alliance EK capitals?

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Thank you for telling us what we want. That is really nice of you. I guess you are missing the Alliance mains who were calling it Horde bias that they didn’t get to destroy the Horde after MoP and BfA?

The Alliance reward was brought up as a direct counter to your claims of horde bias. This is getting dumb. Peace out.

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I’m not ignoring those voices, but those voices on the Alliance are not anywhere near as loud as the voices on the Horde, the voices loud enough to get an entire divergent storyline devoted to Sylvanas Loyalists.

You are high on your own supply if you think the calls for aggression on Alliance number anywhere near what the Horde playerbase slobbers out.

Oh no, it took you an extra 5 minutes to get to the Raid where you spent the next 4 hours doing the content in the raid.

Meanwhile in Stanglethorn Vale, a large number of quests are having you run back and forth between the north and the south. You get two option as alliance: risk going into territory with mobs 10 levels higher than you that wander the road, or run back to Darkshire while dodging stitches. It’s even more fun on a PvP server where piles of high level Horde can quickly bus in to massacre Alliance trying to do things in the north.

It’ll never be equal. You cannot expect blizzard to count each and every interaction and make sure it’s equal on representation and word count etc.