Buy more gold so that your momentary weakness of desperation serves as further ammo to bring about the Holy Token.
Bow before the Token as blizzard rubs their hands together avariciously.
Jokes aside, they don’t really have any real way to police this. Practically and logistically.
Ziago got banned =(. RIP little buddy, they even axed my more inflammatory posts near yours. Rest in peace solider.
GDKP Status: Best loot system for pugs, best system to punish tourist locusts and never banned.
I can see and acknowledge that.
For me, the important thing was playing with long time rl friends.
LC works extremely well for us but I can also acknowledge that GDKP is bis for pugs when the trust/relationship for good guilds isn’t there.
Sad but true.
People need to try to tame the green eyed monster.
You people, all the time. Rmt is a massive industry that has been around since vanilla. Most of the “omg the rmt is too much rn” crowd only turns and focuses on gdkps, and nothing else. You’ve never cared enough until your roster started taking a hit, and it’s easier to hide it behind the RMT shield for ease of agreement from the casual base that drastically doesn’t understand what they’re talking about.
TLDR; you people only come out of the woodworks to screech about gdkps and nothing else while pretending to care about the RMT issue.
That’s the issue, not here, because you people don’t want to recognize that the history of this industry in the game, and fail to recognize that the AH has always been and still continue to be the biggest contributor to the entire RMT industry.
But you people never talk about any of that, while hiding behind the RMT shield.
Whatever you say, doesn’t change that you people are bad at this game and only focus on gdkps because your roster took a hit.
Hiding behind “but the rmt” while ignoring every other aspect of RMT screams bad player with a gross ignorant understanding of this topic.
Lol. Nah. You’re just too toxic and too blind - whether intentionally or not… i suspect intentionally - to see the correlation between the rise of GDKP and increased RMT on classic servers. Ontop this benefiting you directly, so enjoy being toxic because it’s your only way to respond.
sir/ma’am this is a thread about GDKPs being toxic, not a history lesson. The increase prominence of GDKPs in Classic(SoD, classic,wrath) have given rise to blatant botting and RMT to the point of “you people” thinking it’s acceptable.
You’re screaming “I’m toxic af” pretty loud. Your responses only defend it because it benefits you directly. You don’t have solutions because you dont want them because it supports you and your toxicity. It’s rather pathetic honestly.
The solution is blizzard actually polices bots and RMT.
But you know that won’t remove GDKP’s so the reality is you just don’t like GDKP’s and lie about it being the cause of the RMT.
GDKPs are hands down the best pug system.
Biggest issue is that the other pug systems dont vet players like gdkps do, i said it before but when do you ever see MS/OS or any other loot system in a pug share that type of discord that hosts successful raids and im not talking about just SOD.
If the other loot systems are so good then why is there no collection of discords running them as pugs?
Im in like 10 different gdkp discords that all host clean runs with people who perform or they get kicked, that isnt how the other loot system pugs work at all, maybe if they did gdkps wouldnt be such a popular pug system.
It’s continually amusing that the whiners about GDKP’s seem to think that something is different about the actual raids GDKP’s are clearing.
Pro tip, it’s the same raids, with the same bosses, they have the exact same abilities that hit exatcly as hard, there is no bonus for how much gold anyone has the raid and the drop rates are exactly same.
It’s genuinely amusing they think that these raids are so easy that they can be done with half the raid being AFK but can’t do so themselves.
I did my first GDKP today. Was skeptical but, tried it out
The claims are wildly exaggerated.
10 members spent a collective 160g on everything combined. The highest single item was 45g. The highest single spender was 85g for 4 items.
By the time everyone received 16g payout, most people who bought something paid 5g or less for that item.
Sure gold buyers are a problem but you get 2g for completing a quest. Showing up to a GDKP or the AH with 50g in your pocket without buying gold is crazy common
And I looked at their logs of prior runs and these totals were very typical.
Botting is a problem. Gold buying is a problem. GDKP is everywhere. The complaints about GDKP though are so crazy disconnected from reality though
Hmmmmm, nope. I never lied about anything. That’s just conversations you mulled over in your head.
But you’re right about a couple things:
Blizzard should be policing bots and coming down hard on RMT. It’s ruined classic.
And, I don’t like GDKP. Because I think it breeds an environment where people are compelled to buy gold - which it does and has -, and gatekeeps people who don’t have gold out of the pug world since there’s a move away from MS>OS runs.
Here in lies the other problem. If the predominant way of pugging is GDKPs - assuming newer or fresh players aren’t guilded or enter a phase 3-4 weeks late where GDKPs are in full force, where are these players supposed to learn to or go through raids? or learn to…
Or are we just going to say outloud that classic is just for the sweaties or the people who have played the content before. Or if their credit card can be swiped hard enough to get carried to gear.
edit: inb4 the sweaty “it’s an x year old game” response.
My guild does ICC every week with MS/OS +1. We usually have about 15-20 guildies and 5-10 pugs. It’s fair, we joke around have a good time, the loot gets spread around and everyone comes away happy.
Your idea that GDKP is the best option just isnt based in reality. How is a whale bringing bought gold to the raid and hoovering everything up a good system? Or a newly leveled 80 with dungeon GS gear going to get into a GDKP? They can’t unless they RMT and come as a buyer. It’s just an awful vicious circle.
Buy gold, get into GDKP, get gear, need more gold, buy more gold, more GDKP, more gold…swipe swipe swipe. It’s just sad. If you are too lazy or busy to play the game then find another game.
This is what I was trying to say in the comment before this xD… thank you.
You repeat yourself so much it’s like you have to huff the copium to keep posting kek.
Also the people posting in this thread thinking the AH is the issue are outright daft.
The AH will adjust to prices that make sense based on the available economy- botting gold selling and buying will contribute to the price of items on the AH.
GDKP promotes this activity because you allow people that sell gold easy access to items that allow them to do this better- Ontop of promoting the purchasing of gold to fulfil the cost of the GDKP run from the people that purchase raid loot like this. The fact you don’t seem to think this is the case is actually mindboggling which is akin to your copium huffing.
Blizzard does need to take different looks at established systems in SoD, we need harder pressed terms against people that buy gold and the people that facilitate outlets to make it more rampant. This I feel is imperative for SoD to mean anything in the long run- drastic changes across the board and different approaches to established game errata.
It get’s tiresome hearing people like you demand the game stay the same- it really makes you wonder what incentive you have for prattling on how you do.
Your idea of “whales” is outtdated.
Good players have gold, you dont need to swipe to have gold.
Not my problem. Find a guild.
How can you be too lazy when youre literally doing the same raids everyone else does, gdkps dont do a shorter version of the raids you do.
I said successful runs, lets see how many heroic bosses your +1 guild is clearing? Name and guild name?
Hilarious, nice try, why would I give a gold seller my char name!!? Lmao
No we arent as dumb as you guys, we think that all avenues of gold can lead to RMT no matter what that is.
Not really AH prices are based off supply, which is what bots are providing. Notice as Xpacs went on it became far cheaper to raid than the previous xpac?
For instance Classic was way more expensive than TBCC and TBCC was more expensive than WOTLK Classic.
Gdkps have nothing to do with that. You buying a sword in a gdkp doesnt magically make ore or herbs cost more.
Im all for that, gdkp isnt RMT, RMT is RMT.
Im not demanding anything, this thread is demanding GDKPs be banned, which is your side, you and your side are making the demands.
Lets me play for free and gear up alts if i want to.
Ignore function is an option if you cant handle a different opinion.
Thats what i thought.
Yall prolly do Heroic Loot Ship then swap it all to normal.
Thats why we say gdkps are best pug system, people like you wouldnt even make the cut, no matter how much gold you had.
Wow you mean there’s a reason anti gdkpers are also anti parse? It’s almost as if they have ulterior motives and perhaps were not around when guilds had to fill old content after the tourists left. Perhaps it’s a subsect of lazy players demanding blizzard play the game for them? Hmmmm. Interesting, interesting.
Yeah notice how that guy cant show us his “successful” +1 runs?
Almost like its trash and he prolly kills the free heroic boss and swaps it to normal for the other 11 bosses then wipes on normal lich king until the raid ends.
its always the same